Super class survey

[chester]

i voted to leave it alone, no since going faster at a national event if they won't do better track prep.

[Chris Williams]

Originally Posted by The LL

three classes:

8.00
9.00
10.00

run what you brung

Agree completely. Easier for everyone to understand. Ever try to explain to someone that an 8.899 is a breakout, but an 8.989 is legal but slow? Make it 8.00, then anything with a 7.xx is an obvious breakout.

And the fact that you can run a door car in SC but can't run a dragster in SG is silly. Just put up times, choose your class, run what you brung. Heck add an 11.00 class if you need to. Call it Super Slow

My $0.02, worth what you paid for it...
Chris

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by The LL

three classes:

8.00
9.00
10.00

run what you brung

Lance, I'll kill you! LOL jk.

This poll is completely ridiculous. I for one am opposed. Fortunately, I am a person who only has about 20-25 grand in my entire Super Comp operation. I was fortunate to who have won a dragster through a bracket race and have progressed up to the Super Comp category.

By changing the indexes, this becomes a rich man sport. To be able to run 8.0 or even 7.90, one would have to sink another 15-20 grand in another motor. In today's times, I would assume that this is not feasible for many people.

Take a look at national events, the super comp category was full the majority of the time. Why change something that works?

My motor will only run 8.20's or so, therefore I would not be able to make the index change. You don't have to run 175+ to be competitive these days.

By no way am I gloating or bragging on myself, but in the last three years, I have been able to be competitive in super comp going 158-59 mph. I made it to the Allstars this year, finish second in the division, and have even won a couple divisionals and made it to the final of a national.

The status quo has not changed so neither should the indexes. Like mama said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


Austin Williams
S/C 464Q
STK 464Q

[CBS]

Austin,

"completely ridiculous" is a little harsh.....everybody has their opinion.....just put your vote in and lets see what the majority wants......it should be interesting.....

The results will be posted on one of the nhra sites when the poll ends.....I think on the 15th.....

Rock Haas

[The LL]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

Lance, I'll kill you! LOL jk.

This poll is completely ridiculous. I for one am opposed. Fortunately, I am a person who only has about 20-25 grand in my entire Super Comp operation. I was fortunate to who have won a dragster through a bracket race and have progressed up to the Super Comp category.

By changing the indexes, this becomes a rich man sport. To be able to run 8.0 or even 7.90, one would have to sink another 15-20 grand in another motor. In today's times, I would assume that this is not feasible for many people.

Take a look at national events, the super comp category was full the majority of the time. Why change something that works?

My motor will only run 8.20's or so, therefore I would not be able to make the index change. You don't have to run 175+ to be competitive these days.

By no way am I gloating or bragging on myself, but in the last three years, I have been able to be competitive in super comp going 158-59 mph. I made it to the Allstars this year, finish second in the division, and have even won a couple divisionals and made it to the final of a national.

The status quo has not changed so neither should the indexes. Like mama said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


Austin Williams
S/C 464Q
STK 464Q

hey austin you know if i can boot you out of SC there's one less person to clip me.....lol

seriously, for the 8.00, 9.00, 10.00 thing to work, NHRA would have to lift the restrictions on entries.....i.e. a slower dragster would be able to enter in "super gas 9.00"

if the indexes are left alone, i say either 1) let dragsters run 9.90 (and maybe even 10.90), or 2) boot the roadsters and door cars out of super comp. not that i mind running door cars or roadsters, i just dont like double standards.

regardless, i think 10.90 should be made a "regular" super class......same pro tree, allow drivers to run multiple cars....etc etc.

[CBS]

a seperate E-Mail should go out to all racers in 8.90...9.90 ...and 10.90...

for each class that you race....you will get an e-mail.....only racers with competition

numbers in those classes will get the e-mail....

click on the link and select what index you would like possibly in the future.....ok....

this is just to see what everybody thinks........nothing more...


I voted to leave them alone....in case you were wondering.....I don't really care...lol

Rock

[John DiBartolomeo]

I'd like to just reiterate what Rock said. This is just a fact-finding mission to see what everyone thinks. Nothing more than a fishing expedition. As far as we're told, there will be no changes in 2011.

I did vote to move the index to a .50 though.

[budman]

Originally Posted by Dave Steltz

I got both ....SST and SG...heres my take..

Screw Div and Nat events, sitting around for days on end and getting a run here or there...

I'm going small association and bracket racing..

I love the Pro Tree part, just not the ridiculous entry fees and crappy payout...

And the Scotty rule...in todays environment, who cares...does anyone really think that some big hitters will all of a suddden go buy ex-pro stock cars, weight them down to weigh 2800 lbs and come to SST ? Oh thats right we dont have any of those now..not...plenty of 150 mph chassis SST cars out there today...to me its more about the guy who runs SST today and wants to get a stocker or something...

And dont tell me about MPH differences and safety...why is it different than backet racing a 10.90 car against a 7.40 dragster...happens all day...its probably alot worse driving one of those 15 second stockers against some of the newer 9 sec stockers..

And lastly people in the stands...hmmm thinking not...if you use the stop, its over for them...regardless of you're on for 1 sec or 5...

Ok back to your regularly scheduled program..gotta go take my meds...

I agree. Lets get an association going in each division to run at different tracks during the year. Screw NHRA. We could run ET and a super class like national opens. NHRA doesn't care about us but they like our money. Super classes are on the way down. Why do you think they brought in Top Dragster and Top Sportsman. We pay $150 and sit around for 3 days to win $1000. I like IHRA the way they are doing it. 1 day and you are done. At our local track we pay $60 to run ET to win $1200. If you qualify for the ET finals the pay is $3000 to win, and its free, and a trip to Ponoma with $3500 expenses to win another $3000. The divisional payout is not even close even if you win the championship. Maybe thats why my supergas car is for sell and why I'm setting up my Nova to run ET. And about lowering the index. Most super street cars are not certified to run under 10 seconds. If they run under they are in trouble.

[SG1809]

Originally Posted by Tom Joseph

I hope all of you think this out. As I get older I seem to be more thoughtfull of others and what I believe is if NHRA makes SG 8.90 and SC 7.90 they will lose part of their base. I have a SG car that will easily run 8.90 but some don't. Does NHRA think those that can't will just call up an engine builder and order a new 1000 HP motor for 15 to 25 grand just because NHRA and some people that didn't think this out said so. Nope won't happen they will go to IHRA or bracket race and the car counts will go down. NHRA is the one that stands to lose the most here so I am confused as to why they are even thinking of this. I'm emailing NHRA and say just what I have said here. Merry Christmas to all.

I agree completely this will force several cars out of Super Class racing in NHRA. What is this going to accomplish? Nothing. Safety? I don't think so. Bad Idea.
Regards,
Pat I.
SG1809

[slow dragster]

Originally Posted by Tom Joseph

I hope all of you think this out. As I get older I seem to be more thoughtfull of others and what I believe is if NHRA makes SG 8.90 and SC 7.90 they will lose part of their base. I have a SG car that will easily run 8.90 but some don't. Does NHRA think those that can't will just call up an engine builder and order a new 1000 HP motor for 15 to 25 grand just because NHRA and some people that didn't think this out said so. Nope won't happen they will go to IHRA or bracket race and the car counts will go down.

I am with Tom on this one. I too have a car that will run the 7.90 index but there are several that can not. My guess is about 25-30% can not. So take 25-30% of the field and figure out where they will go? Let say 0% will upgrade because if they had more money they would be going faster anyway. I would say they will go bracket racing or sell it.

I voted for the .50 to keep the fields the same. Anymore will remove people from it.

Just my opinion,

Brian