Super class survey - Page 3

Rick Bailey · 12-07-2010, 01:22 PM

Steve, Rock ....yeah the polls are way cool, and a big change. Now on this poll, is it NHRA or the racers that are wanting it. ?

I would of like to seen a poll of "JUST" adding a 7.90 class for the fast guys. And leave other classes alone.

Thanks Guys, keep up the good work

Rick

Mickey Whaley · 12-07-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by darkside

I love SG and SC raced it forever until a few years ago. Heck I've raced about every class and will adjust to whatever the rules are in the class I choose to run in at a given time.

When I first thought about this, my first thought was why in the heck would anyone wanna screw with something so right as these classes are. But after further examination, it just makes sense to change the indexs. I can't help but think only about 20-30% are effected at all, and those that run more than a race or two has to be 10% or less. Take that into account along with the fact that I am not sure you can even build a engine in a standard dragster that would actually run 8.90 anymore and it is time to get in the present, it is going to be 2011 you know.

If I am in the minority, no problem, at least thanks to Rock and the other member of SRAC for bringing this up along with the other safty things they are working on.

I agree with lynn and steve c

T Hall · 12-07-2010, 08:53 PM

I vote leave index alone.
As far as s/st drivers being able to drive other classes, I vote Yes as long as it is not s super catagory. Let them run stock, or super stock is fine.
I agree with Rock though, whatever, I dont care, but thanks for askin.

Terry Edwards · 12-07-2010, 09:19 PM

Hi guys and gals. For those who don't know me, I am the D5 super class rep. I would like to give my input on a few things.
First of all, the email that was sent out to the super class racers stated that the Sportsman Advisory Council felt there is a need to lower the indexes. That is not actually true. The council agreed that a vote should be conducted to include all racers' input on if the indexes should be lowered, and we unanimously said yes to an online poll.
I took an unofficial poll at the Topeka division race in August in which I handed out ballots in the staging lanes. Racers returned their vote on some of the same issues you are voting on now. The overall results just to let you know were:

Index change?.. 75 voted no (leave it be) and 8 voted yes (lower it)
Super Street racers able to run 2 classes?.. 58 voted yes (change the rule) and 25 voted no (leave it alone)

As you can see, only about one third of the super class racers in attendence responded. I hope there are more that speak their mind to the online poll. Also, all my fellow D5 racers need to vote again on the online poll. I don't want them to think they have already voted from the unofficial survey I took.
I am not going to give my opinion on here. There are pros and cons to both sides. I will just vote on what I think will be best for the sport on the online poll. Thanks, Terry

mopar · 12-07-2010, 11:52 PM

where is this survey coming from have not seen it at this point

Ron Waters s/st 1346

63corvette · 12-08-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mopar

where is this survey coming from have not seen it at this point

Ron Waters s/st 1346

Mine came from Glendora and Josh Peterson.
If you have a competition number and a registered email address with NHRA you should be getting the survey.
I received one for Super Gas and another for Super Comp even though I only competed in Super Gas last year but I have a competition number for both categories.

Terry, I am one of your Division 5 survey non respondents. I had mine filled out to give back then I spoke with a SS/T racer I was parked next to at Topeka and he convinced me I had voted wrong after I had it filled out so it is still in the race trailer.
I personally do not care which way it goes but someone who now can barely run a category index will be hurt if the indexes are lowered. That in turn could hurt participation which could hurt everyone involved.
I have not yet decided whether to respond to the NHRA survey for that reason.
Just My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

sc321 · 12-06-2010, 09:54 PM

As you can see I do not normally chim in on these thing, raced SC for many years, retired, back to Jegs SQ for years, than SST (screw the scotty rule), wanted to go faster purchased SG, wanted more speed got TD. Don't kid yourself like any form of motorsports it's all about $$$$. Unless your blind anyone who has attended div of nats or the past 5 years will see what the down turn in ecomony has done to car counts. Lower the index and you will see more drop off. It's simple if you want to go faster go TS, TD, Comp, TAD, PS you get the picture. I do agree we need spectators in the stand. Any chance we get to introduce newbees to the sport we do. The first question when .90 class cars run is why pause (on stop), a newbee just can not comprehend, you wants spectators get rid of stops all together!!! Any thats even kidding youself hit hard to get them to watch 200mph TS or TD. We will never get new blood in this sport if it costing 75g for a SG car.

Regan Wilson · 12-13-2010, 07:48 PM

Heres some speed limits !

SST 160

SG 180

SC 200

Dont try to kick someone up (thats a oxymoron) to another class that doesn't want to go .

frank v · 12-13-2010, 08:59 PM

those are some crazy mph's

CBS · 12-13-2010, 09:30 PM

Ok so some of you guys don't care for the faster cars in the classes.....right...what is it....the looking over your shoulder part....or the ego part....he goes faster than me....or you would just like to go faster.....

For me, I do like to chase...because I'm not good enough to look over my shoulder.........and I like the car to get my attention a little....
The speed thing is self governing.....in super gas, 170 seems to be the speed....in super comp 180 seems to be the speed....it appears that is the ceiling for consistency....(.not sure about super street....) I know guys go faster but I'm talking about winners......So whats the issue.....who cares if somebody goes 200....or 180 in super gas.....
Their light doesn't come on very often.....

Rock Haas

12-07-2010, 01:22 PM	#1
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Super class survey Steve, Rock ....yeah the polls are way cool, and a big change. Now on this poll, is it NHRA or the racers that are wanting it. ? I would of like to seen a poll of "JUST" adding a 7.90 class for the fast guys. And leave other classes alone. Thanks Guys, keep up the good work Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

12-07-2010, 08:53 PM	#3
T Hall Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,Ohio Posts: 390 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey I vote leave index alone. As far as s/st drivers being able to drive other classes, I vote Yes as long as it is not s super catagory. Let them run stock, or super stock is fine. I agree with Rock though, whatever, I dont care, but thanks for askin. __________________ Tony Hall 3545 S/ST

12-07-2010, 09:19 PM	#4
Terry Edwards Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey Hi guys and gals. For those who don't know me, I am the D5 super class rep. I would like to give my input on a few things. First of all, the email that was sent out to the super class racers stated that the Sportsman Advisory Council felt there is a need to lower the indexes. That is not actually true. The council agreed that a vote should be conducted to include all racers' input on if the indexes should be lowered, and we unanimously said yes to an online poll. I took an unofficial poll at the Topeka division race in August in which I handed out ballots in the staging lanes. Racers returned their vote on some of the same issues you are voting on now. The overall results just to let you know were: Index change?.. 75 voted no (leave it be) and 8 voted yes (lower it) Super Street racers able to run 2 classes?.. 58 voted yes (change the rule) and 25 voted no (leave it alone) As you can see, only about one third of the super class racers in attendence responded. I hope there are more that speak their mind to the online poll. Also, all my fellow D5 racers need to vote again on the online poll. I don't want them to think they have already voted from the unofficial survey I took. I am not going to give my opinion on here. There are pros and cons to both sides. I will just vote on what I think will be best for the sport on the online poll. Thanks, Terry

12-07-2010, 11:52 PM	#5
mopar Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey where is this survey coming from have not seen it at this point Ron Waters s/st 1346

12-06-2010, 09:54 PM	#7
sc321 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wapakoneta Ohio Posts: 39 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey As you can see I do not normally chim in on these thing, raced SC for many years, retired, back to Jegs SQ for years, than SST (screw the scotty rule), wanted to go faster purchased SG, wanted more speed got TD. Don't kid yourself like any form of motorsports it's all about $$$$. Unless your blind anyone who has attended div of nats or the past 5 years will see what the down turn in ecomony has done to car counts. Lower the index and you will see more drop off. It's simple if you want to go faster go TS, TD, Comp, TAD, PS you get the picture. I do agree we need spectators in the stand. Any chance we get to introduce newbees to the sport we do. The first question when .90 class cars run is why pause (on stop), a newbee just can not comprehend, you wants spectators get rid of stops all together!!! Any thats even kidding youself hit hard to get them to watch 200mph TS or TD. We will never get new blood in this sport if it costing 75g for a SG car.

12-13-2010, 07:48 PM	#8
Regan Wilson Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 251 Likes: 160 Liked 134 Times in 70 Posts	Re: Super class survey Heres some speed limits ! SST 160 SG 180 SC 200 Dont try to kick someone up (thats a oxymoron) to another class that doesn't want to go .

12-13-2010, 08:59 PM	#9
frank v Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny Posts: 286 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey those are some crazy mph's __________________ s/g 1620

12-13-2010, 09:30 PM	#10
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Super class survey Ok so some of you guys don't care for the faster cars in the classes.....right...what is it....the looking over your shoulder part....or the ego part....he goes faster than me....or you would just like to go faster..... For me, I do like to chase...because I'm not good enough to look over my shoulder.........and I like the car to get my attention a little.... The speed thing is self governing.....in super gas, 170 seems to be the speed....in super comp 180 seems to be the speed....it appears that is the ceiling for consistency....(.not sure about super street....) I know guys go faster but I'm talking about winners......So whats the issue.....who cares if somebody goes 200....or 180 in super gas..... Their light doesn't come on very often..... Rock Haas