Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? - Page 3

Bob Verwold · 08-22-2010, 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=Chris Williams;205521] Let's say you pick 160mph. I run 8.899 at 160, my opponent runs 8.900 at 161, who wins?

Do it as first or worst. Breaking out first, running over MPH worst....

Takes care of that problem.......................

Chris Williams · 08-22-2010, 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=Bob Verwold;205531]

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Originally Posted by Chris Williams

Let's say you pick 160mph. I run 8.899 at 160, my opponent runs 8.900 at 161, who wins?

Do it as first or worst. Breaking out first, running over MPH worst....

Takes care of that problem.......................

Huh? So who wins in my example? They happen at the same instant. Which is "first"? What's "worst" about MPH? That's just random and arbitrary.

Really. You guys are just trying to make this sport more complex and silly.

Chris Williams · 08-22-2010, 12:22 PM

The more I think about this, the more pathetic it seems. To "fix" the classes that are already the laughing stock of all of drag racing because they're the only classes that don't run full out from the hit, you want to introduce another concept that has never been a part of the sport in any form, and by it's very nature, seems totally against everything that drag racing is: a speed limit. Wow, why don't you require that all Super class racers wear clown noses too?

All of this to "fix" the problem of big MPH cars. You don't have to run big MPH to win in the super classes. In my experience, the big MPH guys don't really have an advantage much beyond about 10MPH. When you see a person doing ~160 against some 185MPH fire breather, it's as much of a challenge to judge the stripe for both of them.

The big $$/HP/MPH problem exists in all classes of racing. In bracket classes, it sucks just as bad, the only difference is that the "throttle stop" is the tree. You still have the 7 second guy rushing up on the 9 second guy. In Super classes, it's just a little further down track. In the alky and pro classes, the big dollar teams (read: big HP) have a decided advantage.

Folks, this is just racing. People with more money to spend, have an advantage. I'm sorry, but it's like life. You have to find a way to be more creative with the bucks you can muster. And enjoy like hell when the little guy can beat the big guy.

cicero819 · 08-22-2010, 01:44 PM

Chris, I love racing, sc, sg,sst will survive if you only do one little thing, remove all timers, just throttle stop the car. In think in 83 or 84 At INDY, a gentleman had bought Warren Johnson's Pro Stock and wanted to run Competition Eliminator with it but unfortunately he had one carburetor too many(I'm not sure if it's the only reason) NHRA decided to let him run but only in Super Gas if he wanted to compete, which he did going through time trials at over 7:50's 188mph he did try to slow it down but couldn't. The reason for this tale, just no more use of mega motors. Simple, I believe in the KISS principle. When something doesn't make sense anymore you must say or do something to save it. We now have now the technology to make planes take off and to land the aircraft without any human help. How easy could it be to make a pulse start system. I say just remove electronics completely(except ignition) and they will come. You can have that 1000hp motor but why would you. Simple and back to basics. CR

08-22-2010, 11:18 AM	#1
Bob Verwold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville Ohio Posts: 656 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? [QUOTE=Chris Williams;205521] Let's say you pick 160mph. I run 8.899 at 160, my opponent runs 8.900 at 161, who wins? Do it as first or worst. Breaking out first, running over MPH worst.... Takes care of that problem.......................

08-22-2010, 12:22 PM	#3
Chris Williams Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 401 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? The more I think about this, the more pathetic it seems. To "fix" the classes that are already the laughing stock of all of drag racing because they're the only classes that don't run full out from the hit, you want to introduce another concept that has never been a part of the sport in any form, and by it's very nature, seems totally against everything that drag racing is: a speed limit. Wow, why don't you require that all Super class racers wear clown noses too? All of this to "fix" the problem of big MPH cars. You don't have to run big MPH to win in the super classes. In my experience, the big MPH guys don't really have an advantage much beyond about 10MPH. When you see a person doing ~160 against some 185MPH fire breather, it's as much of a challenge to judge the stripe for both of them. The big $$/HP/MPH problem exists in all classes of racing. In bracket classes, it sucks just as bad, the only difference is that the "throttle stop" is the tree. You still have the 7 second guy rushing up on the 9 second guy. In Super classes, it's just a little further down track. In the alky and pro classes, the big dollar teams (read: big HP) have a decided advantage. Folks, this is just racing. People with more money to spend, have an advantage. I'm sorry, but it's like life. You have to find a way to be more creative with the bucks you can muster. And enjoy like hell when the little guy can beat the big guy. __________________ Chris Williams 6304 SC, TD, ET

08-22-2010, 01:44 PM	#4
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,087 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? Chris, I love racing, sc, sg,sst will survive if you only do one little thing, remove all timers, just throttle stop the car. In think in 83 or 84 At INDY, a gentleman had bought Warren Johnson's Pro Stock and wanted to run Competition Eliminator with it but unfortunately he had one carburetor too many(I'm not sure if it's the only reason) NHRA decided to let him run but only in Super Gas if he wanted to compete, which he did going through time trials at over 7:50's 188mph he did try to slow it down but couldn't. The reason for this tale, just no more use of mega motors. Simple, I believe in the KISS principle. When something doesn't make sense anymore you must say or do something to save it. We now have now the technology to make planes take off and to land the aircraft without any human help. How easy could it be to make a pulse start system. I say just remove electronics completely(except ignition) and they will come. You can have that 1000hp motor but why would you. Simple and back to basics. CR