Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning

[Michael Beard]

Yeah, who would want to race like they did in the stone ages? We're entitled to do more, with more, with no regard to the consequences...

Every penny of the car, truck, and trailer is paid for. Gets good mileage, can park anywhere, no hassles, etc., so I can afford to race. I had more than one guy come up to me at Michigan this weekend, surprised that I didn't have a huge rig, since they "see me in all the magazines". They expressed their appreciation for doing it the way I do.

[cicero819]

Micheal great to see you enjoying racing how it was meant to be. In 1995 I remember seeing Chuck Rayburn at Maplegrove running the Keystone National(I think it was the year he won the Championship in Stock eliminator) with his Blue F250 Ford with a diesel he installed himself(great engine swap) and open trailer sleeping in the truck. It can be done but as we get older we miss the comfort of home, probably why we drag our house to the track.lol One of the reasons I love my Suburban so much was that we could sleep in it with mosquito netting around the windows.lol CR

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Yeah, who would want to race like they did in the stone ages? We're entitled to do more, with more, with no regard to the consequences...

Every penny of the car, truck, and trailer is paid for. Gets good mileage, can park anywhere, no hassles, etc., so I can afford to race. I had more than one guy come up to me at Michigan this weekend, surprised that I didn't have a huge rig, since they "see me in all the magazines". They expressed their appreciation for doing it the way I do.

Nice looking operation Mike! Yours is what X-Tech Man is talking about. If more of us would haul our cars like you do, then there would be more space in the pits for more racer operations. Although I don't have the full size truck like you do, my Colorado has hauled my car from Denver to Brainerd, and from Phoenix to Bakersfield, and several places inbetween both locales. Moreover, if my initial neighbors at this years Tucson divisional would've had a smaller rig, then they wouldn't have needed to park their car so close to the line separating my pit spot from theirs. Thus when the guys wife opened his right side door to help back up their car, it wouldn't have come across my fender like it did (thank GOD for the molding on my car that kept their door from trading paint with mine! I'm glad he apologized to me for her, because she didn't even have the decency to say she was sorry for her oversight...pit spaces are only so big, but racer rigs are getting larger and larger all of the time...forget the pro's squeezing us out of big races, those big rigs are doing enough of it themselves already!

Originally Posted by Steve Williams

It is not the law enforcement officers fault he or she has to enforce a poorly written law. Your complaint is with the people that took the State of MI Bill and passed it into law. Next time you come into to town, go over and do some shopping off the Davison Fwy and see if your car is their when you come back or if you manage to escape with your life after you get robbed at gunpoint. Call 911 and ask for the "just plain worthless Tax people with guns" and see if they can come out and help you. I find the comments offensive and disturbing.

In a life or death situation you have seconds when the tax collectors with guns are minutes away....Who are you kidding...you are a mis informer!

[Steve Williams]

Originally Posted by Jason Fuller

In a life or death situation you have seconds when the tax collectors with guns are minutes away....Who are you kidding...you are a mis informer!

Jason,

I believe that I am more than qualified to speak on law enforcement matters and the enforcement of CDL licenses and commercial vehicles.. I enforced these laws, however vague they may be, because it was my job. I did this for over 20 years. The federal government started this program about 15 years ago and there is funding that goes to states that participate in the education of law enforcement officers for the very purpose of taking out the bad apples that traverse our country everyday. Most of the safety laws concerning the vehicles is pretty sound. The portions of law that concern over length, who needs a CDL based upon the use of vehicle and what exactly defines these matters is not clear. In large police departments, they have dedicated units that enforce these laws. In smaller departments they send a few to these classes and they enforce part time due to man power issues. These units or individuals, who enforce these laws are educated with whatever laws that passed from sub par bills. Now if you think for a minute that when the stink hits the fan, that these law enforcement officers will not respond to any matter regardless if it is a major incident or a minor accident then you are sadly mistaken. They are out there their every day and night doing their jobs, whatever they might be, not for personal gain but to provide a piece of mind for their residents and that they will look out for their well being. I won't defend the crummy laws surrounding these issues, but it is someones job to enforce them because it is their mandate. The only way to make the necessary change, is for persons like Mr. Mackie to pursue the appeal process and get in touch with their state politicians and discuss these incidents. It is a pain in the *** to do these things, but it will never change if apathy is applied to these incidents. In conclusion, I state that it is you Sir that is misinformed. Good luck with your anarchistic views, it will take you far. I will be at Bowling Green, Indy and Belle Rose in the coming weeks if you wish to persuade me to your way of thinking. Better yet, don't waste your time on me, I won't change my way of thinking or misinforming others.

Steve Williams

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Steve Williams

Jason,

I believe that I am more than qualified to speak on law enforcement matters and the enforcement of CDL licenses and commercial vehicles.. I enforced these laws, however vague they may be, because it was my job. I did this for over 20 years. The federal government started this program about 15 years ago and there is funding that goes to states that participate in the education of law enforcement officers for the very purpose of taking out the bad apples that traverse our country everyday. Most of the safety laws concerning the vehicles is pretty sound. The portions of law that concern over length, who needs a CDL based upon the use of vehicle and what exactly defines these matters is not clear. In large police departments, they have dedicated units that enforce these laws. In smaller departments they send a few to these classes and they enforce part time due to man power issues. These units or individuals, who enforce these laws are educated with whatever laws that passed from sub par bills. Now if you think for a minute that when the stink hits the fan, that these law enforcement officers will not respond to any matter regardless if it is a major incident or a minor accident then you are sadly mistaken. They are out there their every day and night doing their jobs, whatever they might be, not for personal gain but to provide a piece of mind for their residents and that they will look out for their well being. I won't defend the crummy laws surrounding these issues, but it is someones job to enforce them because it is their mandate. The only way to make the necessary change, is for persons like Mr. Mackie to pursue the appeal process and get in touch with their state politicians and discuss these incidents. It is a pain in the *** to do these things, but it will never change if apathy is applied to these incidents. In conclusion, I state that it is you Sir that is misinformed. Good luck with your anarchistic views, it will take you far. I will be at Bowling Green, Indy and Belle Rose in the coming weeks if you wish to persuade me to your way of thinking. Better yet, don't waste your time on me, I won't change my way of thinking or misinforming others.

Steve Williams

Good post Steve,but why bother.You would get a more understanding conversation with a corn muffin than this fruit loop.

[FED 387]

OK boys!!! I think it is either time to put this thread to sleep or get back to the original topic, we have digressedfrom the original subject.

Motorhome rules for the most part are coverd under antiquated rules that were put into effect many years ago originally for the over the road trucking industry---A UNIFORM seperate set of rules needs to be implemented that will provide for the public safety and satisfy the motoring publics needs. Larger vehicles such as motorhomes with or without trailers/5th wheel pick up combinations and toterhomes towing trailers all need to be looked at and included in these new regulations so that users traveling from one state to another can be assured that the vehicle they are using will comply with that states traffic rules--These rules and regulations should cover not only all forms of racing but enthusiasts in other sports/hobbies etc.-Comp