HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-03-2010, 07:07 PM   #31
Pvt Parts
Member
 
Pvt Parts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Avon, Indiana
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

It depends on how bad you want to win. Winning in this sport demands that no stone goes unturned. The faster cars win more rounds, period. So if winning is your top priority, get a faster car.
Pvt Parts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 09:40 PM   #32
NewHemi
Senior Member
 
NewHemi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 472
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

Two things make it fun:

The hole shot you put on that monster next to you

and

The Win

Doesn't feel much different with my SRT8 at 13 secs, or a super gas at less than 9...

First out, and first over... is why I race.

David
The New Hemi Guy
________
Mercedes-benz w136 specifications

Last edited by NewHemi; 04-05-2011 at 10:08 PM.
NewHemi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2010, 06:29 PM   #33
cicero819
VIP Member
 
cicero819's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada
Posts: 1,086
Likes: 31
Liked 68 Times in 29 Posts
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

I love the slower cars, I've race fast cars and slow cars but I love leaving first, less pressure. Since mathematics can be applied to racing I once calculated at Indy many years ago that 1% got a perfect light, 10% .05 to .12, 33% .13 to.45, 26% .45 to whatever, 24% red lite and 6% broke. 56% disqualify themselves right off the get go, the secret is to be in that 44% as many good racer have shown such as Dan Fletcher even if he isn't always the fastest car he still falls in that 44%.
cicero819 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2010, 05:07 PM   #34
GarysZ24
VIP Member
 
GarysZ24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Tempe, Az.
Posts: 1,239
Likes: 719
Liked 197 Times in 78 Posts
Send a message via MSN to GarysZ24 Send a message via Yahoo to GarysZ24
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pvt Parts View Post
It depends on how bad you want to win. The faster cars win more rounds, period. So if winning is your top priority, get a faster car.
I have a friend and fellow racer who probably would disagree with you on the above thoughts, and he's wearing a big "3" on his station wagon this year to prove it..."Jody Lang"! There may have been two racers who finished higher than he in last years national points, but there were countless others who finished BELOW HIM...oh and by the way, no one out did him in Div. 6 AGAIN!!!

I too enjoy my slower roller because I don't need to spend as much money or time working on my car, to make it competitive, because I have one (of several) road less traveled kind of entries. I definitely enjoy(ed) the times when I beat the cars that are (were) supposed to beat mine because they have more money in them than the total financed cost of my '04 Chevy Colorado pu. truck (tow vehicle), which was $27K! Moreover, I know full well that most all of the races I've lost (since my car's become competitive), have been my fault as a driver, not my having a slower classed stocker...as ALMACK clearly stated, "many runs at the track", would help make me more successfull like one "Mr Jody Lang" has now been for three decades! Besides it will be a great enjoyment to me, should I become:

1. The first fwd stocker racer to win a national or a divisional event this century.

2. The only repeat winner of either of those types of races.

3. The first person to win a seasonal points championship (divisional or especially national).

4. The first fwd stocker participant in the "All Stars" race.

5. Heck, even becoming the first top ten national (if not divisional) points finisher would be something I'd really enjoy!

Most (if not all) of the above is out there waiting to be accomplished, and I have the desire, I just need more of the funds to get out there enough to improve my driving/judgement of the stripe skills...the rest would take care of itself as it has for Jody, Jimmy D., Fletch, Pete B., Mark F., Mike I., and Edmond & his brother Scotty R. (amongst numerous others). Most of the above named guys may race the faster stockers, but seat time is the primary reason they're so well known, and so good...not the car, but the driver...
__________________
Gary Hampton
'86 Z24,173 V6
CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)

Last edited by GarysZ24; 03-05-2010 at 05:14 PM.
GarysZ24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2010, 05:49 PM   #35
The Hawk
VIP Member
 
The Hawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Littleton,Colorado
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 0
Liked 241 Times in 104 Posts
Send a message via AIM to The Hawk
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

Well Troy,I do remember that one myself as well. I dialed the way needed,I had a qualifying sheet in hand,and did what was "necessary" to maybe get through the round. You are correct though,those races are a lot of fun!! Running a quicker car doesn`t guarnetee you a round win,if you know how to win,you can be just as deadly as a "AA" car. Lane
__________________
Lane Weber

It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It
The Hawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2010, 06:02 PM   #36
GarysZ24
VIP Member
 
GarysZ24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Tempe, Az.
Posts: 1,239
Likes: 719
Liked 197 Times in 78 Posts
Send a message via MSN to GarysZ24 Send a message via Yahoo to GarysZ24
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lane M Weber View Post
Well Troy,I do remember that one myself as well. I dialed the way needed,I had a qualifying sheet in hand,and did what was "necessary" to maybe get through the round. You are correct though,those races are a lot of fun!! Running a quicker car doesn`t guarnetee you a round win,if you know how to win,you can be just as deadly as a "AA" car. Lane
Hey Lane,

I remember your race with Scotty Richardson @ Douglas's divisional (I believe in '96), he may have won the world championship in Stock, but his efforts were side-tracked since he couldn't beat "THE HAWK"!!!
__________________
Gary Hampton
'86 Z24,173 V6
CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)
GarysZ24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2010, 06:19 PM   #37
The Hawk
VIP Member
 
The Hawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Littleton,Colorado
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 0
Liked 241 Times in 104 Posts
Send a message via AIM to The Hawk
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

Thanks for remembering Gary. That was a long time ago!! Still one of my finer moments!
__________________
Lane Weber

It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It
The Hawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2010, 06:22 PM   #38
Mark Yacavone
Veteran Member
 
Mark Yacavone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Miles From Nowhere
Posts: 7,466
Likes: 2,638
Liked 4,549 Times in 1,727 Posts
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

No, I guess not.
When I was in high school, I used to read the Hot Rod Indy coverage (hidden in my notebook, of course). I was fascinated by the 50 Olds's, Studebakers, Hudsons, Corvairs, in other words, normal everyday mom and pop cars. Cars I might be able to afford after graduation.

Later, I found out how much fun it was to win a trophy by inches, no matter what the actual ET was.

Truth be known ,in 1986 ,when I drove Bill Shurla's Escort at the Summers, I had the option to drive a B/Stock Firebird instead. The reason I didn't was because I wouldn't have had a chance to drive the car the weekend before to get used to it. I opted for the FWD Ford, for that reason. I didn't really care about the fast or slow business.
It all worked out in the end anyway, but that's probably one of the reasons , to this day, why I've never even driven a 10 second or faster car.
__________________
We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for..... Will Rogers
Mark Yacavone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2010, 06:32 PM   #39
GarysZ24
VIP Member
 
GarysZ24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Tempe, Az.
Posts: 1,239
Likes: 719
Liked 197 Times in 78 Posts
Send a message via MSN to GarysZ24 Send a message via Yahoo to GarysZ24
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone View Post
No, I guess not.
When I was in high school, I used to read the Hot Rod Indy coverage (hidden in my notebook, of course). I was fascinated by the 50 Olds's, Studebakers, Hudsons, Corvairs, in other words, normal everyday mom and pop cars. Cars I might be able to afford after graduation.

Later, I found out how much fun it was to win a trophy by inches, no matter what the actual ET was.

Truth be known ,in 1986 ,when I drove Bill Shurla's Escort at the Summers, I had the option to drive a B/Stock Firebird instead. The reason I didn't was because I wouldn't have had a chance to drive the car the weekend before to get used to it. I opted for the FWD Ford, for that reason. I didn't really care about the fast or slow business.
It all worked out in the end anyway, but that's probably one of the reasons , to this day, why I've never even driven a 10 second or faster car.
Hey Mark,

I'm glad you chose the Escort too, because you chose to run a "road less traveled" type of car, and won one of the most ballyhooed races of the year, and became a racer in a class by yourself...the one, the only, "FRONT WHEEL DRIVE NATIONAL EVENT WINNER"!!!
__________________
Gary Hampton
'86 Z24,173 V6
CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)
GarysZ24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 05:57 AM   #40
Bobby Zlatkin
Member
 
Bobby Zlatkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Mills River, NC
Posts: 417
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Do you really need to go fast to enjoy S,S/S racing?

Ya Mark, that 1986 win of your's inspired me to do an Escort too after talking to you in Bradenton. Never won anything with that car but I did have a lot of fun with it. In fact it's the same car that Harry (Underdog) Morgan races now. He put an automatic in it and has had fun with it for the last 16 years.
__________________
Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA
Bobby Zlatkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.