Diapers for stock - Page 2

Don Kennedy · 02-09-2010, 09:38 PM

Is there a libility issue if a racer breaks a engine and the oil is in the diapher and then the headers start the oil on fire and the cars burns to the ground? just curious .next question My oil pan is about 3 inches from the ground ,this is the Min per NHRA now how will i put a diapher on my oil pan without vio;iting the NHRA rules ?? Just curious>

Chris "drooze" Wertman · 02-09-2010, 09:59 PM

I sure dono the answer to that, what I do know is that would lead to a very real and very sad sight of me doing my "Ricky Bobby" imperenations, including the complete breakdown......

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Is there a libility issue if a racer breaks a engine and the oil is in the diapher and then the headers start the oil on fire and the cars burns to the ground? just curious .next question My oil pan is about 3 inches from the ground ,this is the Min per NHRA now how will i put a diapher on my oil pan without vio;iting the NHRA rules ?? Just curious>

DIAPERMAN · 02-09-2010, 11:53 PM

To answer the first question our diapers are thin and light weight you will not have heat issue,we all know you only get about 3 passes all day at NHRA events.DRE diapers are sized to fit your engine so they dont hang down .Don yes you can come up with all kinds of negatives to the diaper I have heard them all,but I have heard Hundreds of racers that we have saved thier car and maybe thier life.So if you blowed the motor with no diaper you would not have to worry about the fire,just hang on for the ride when the oil hits the tires and the sudden stop when you hit the wall or the racer in the other lane.I will agree some cars are going to be more trouble to run a diaper,but we are not the creator of the rules we are here to help thanks for ?

71mavlouisville · 02-10-2010, 06:32 AM

I am building a new SS car and have the diaper in place. I got mine from Dennis. I wouldn't dream of not running one. I think they should be required, why not? The diapers are inexpensive, easy to install, and can save your life. What's not to like? Waiting for an oil down is not fun for anyone at the track. I remember being at a divisional one time and they had 3 oil downs in 6 pairs of cars. That made for 6 cars going down the track in 3 hours. That sucks no matter how you look at it. We as racers have to take some responsibility for a situation like that. Being my own engine builder I also like the mental freedom of not thinking about the engine once I am in the car. I like knowing that I can run it WFO and if it blows, oh well, I lost the engine but not the car. I have a friend who runs a comp eliminator dragster and had the belly pan in place last year when he kicked the rods out on top end. All of the oil was contained and he stopped the car without any problems. You can't tell me that if you are on top end and the engine blows that you are going to have some confidence to step on the brakes if you have a diaper in place, vs stepping on the brakes without a diaper in place. Not trying to argue but to me this is common sense.

Steve1118 · 02-10-2010, 12:52 PM

"I heard the opposite from a division director. He said he had more down time for stock/superstock than any other class."

I'm afraid that I would have to see something from Mr. Division Director to back that up.

It makes you wonder how we ever made it without them for this past half century.

7820 · 02-10-2010, 02:09 PM

Don I can't imagine your car sitting any lower than my '65 tube chassis GTO and I do not have a ground clearance problem. I've had the diaper on for over a year and have raced at four different tracks and so far it has not rubbed on the ground.

Racer 6x64 · 02-10-2010, 02:37 PM

Hello my fellow racers.

I am not a Class Racer but I do drive a low 9 sec bracket car. The talk about the diaper situation is the same at all tracks and in all classes. I am by no means trying to say anything against a drivers choice to put a diaper on your car or not. I had a pretty bad crash at my home track in mid august last year as a rod decided to leave my engine via the oil pan.. If i had a diaper on the car most likekly I would have simply had a damaged engine. With all the oil flowing from the giant hole in my pan I got way way out of shape and stuffed it into the wall at 140 mph.

This is just my two cents on the fact that a diaper would have saved me a lot of money and would have hopefully prented a pretty serious crash. Just remember that you can have the best engine builder in the world, but they didn't build all the parts in that engine. If a rod cap breaks you will be going for a very unpleasant ride.

Have a safe and fun season.

W J · 02-10-2010, 02:49 PM

C.P. That is a eye-opening post, w/very positive reasoning for diaper installations on these racecars.....WJ

DIAPERMAN · 02-10-2010, 06:13 PM

Don you call me we can build a diaper that will work.I am glad to see good post on this lets get peoples ideas

02-09-2010, 09:38 PM	#1
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Is there a libility issue if a racer breaks a engine and the oil is in the diapher and then the headers start the oil on fire and the cars burns to the ground? just curious .next question My oil pan is about 3 inches from the ground ,this is the Min per NHRA now how will i put a diapher on my oil pan without vio;iting the NHRA rules ?? Just curious> __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

02-09-2010, 11:53 PM	#3
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock To answer the first question our diapers are thin and light weight you will not have heat issue,we all know you only get about 3 passes all day at NHRA events.DRE diapers are sized to fit your engine so they dont hang down .Don yes you can come up with all kinds of negatives to the diaper I have heard them all,but I have heard Hundreds of racers that we have saved thier car and maybe thier life.So if you blowed the motor with no diaper you would not have to worry about the fire,just hang on for the ride when the oil hits the tires and the sudden stop when you hit the wall or the racer in the other lane.I will agree some cars are going to be more trouble to run a diaper,but we are not the creator of the rules we are here to help thanks for ?

02-10-2010, 06:32 AM	#4
71mavlouisville Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 68 Likes: 0 Liked 28 Times in 1 Post	Re: Diapers for stock I am building a new SS car and have the diaper in place. I got mine from Dennis. I wouldn't dream of not running one. I think they should be required, why not? The diapers are inexpensive, easy to install, and can save your life. What's not to like? Waiting for an oil down is not fun for anyone at the track. I remember being at a divisional one time and they had 3 oil downs in 6 pairs of cars. That made for 6 cars going down the track in 3 hours. That sucks no matter how you look at it. We as racers have to take some responsibility for a situation like that. Being my own engine builder I also like the mental freedom of not thinking about the engine once I am in the car. I like knowing that I can run it WFO and if it blows, oh well, I lost the engine but not the car. I have a friend who runs a comp eliminator dragster and had the belly pan in place last year when he kicked the rods out on top end. All of the oil was contained and he stopped the car without any problems. You can't tell me that if you are on top end and the engine blows that you are going to have some confidence to step on the brakes if you have a diaper in place, vs stepping on the brakes without a diaper in place. Not trying to argue but to me this is common sense.

02-10-2010, 12:52 PM	#5
Steve1118 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Walton's Mountain Posts: 116 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock "I heard the opposite from a division director. He said he had more down time for stock/superstock than any other class." I'm afraid that I would have to see something from Mr. Division Director to back that up. It makes you wonder how we ever made it without them for this past half century.

02-10-2010, 02:09 PM	#6
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Don I can't imagine your car sitting any lower than my '65 tube chassis GTO and I do not have a ground clearance problem. I've had the diaper on for over a year and have raced at four different tracks and so far it has not rubbed on the ground.

02-10-2010, 02:37 PM	#7
Racer 6x64 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Hello my fellow racers. I am not a Class Racer but I do drive a low 9 sec bracket car. The talk about the diaper situation is the same at all tracks and in all classes. I am by no means trying to say anything against a drivers choice to put a diaper on your car or not. I had a pretty bad crash at my home track in mid august last year as a rod decided to leave my engine via the oil pan.. If i had a diaper on the car most likekly I would have simply had a damaged engine. With all the oil flowing from the giant hole in my pan I got way way out of shape and stuffed it into the wall at 140 mph. This is just my two cents on the fact that a diaper would have saved me a lot of money and would have hopefully prented a pretty serious crash. Just remember that you can have the best engine builder in the world, but they didn't build all the parts in that engine. If a rod cap breaks you will be going for a very unpleasant ride. Have a safe and fun season. __________________ C. P. 2015 Drag Pack Challenger FS/C

02-10-2010, 02:49 PM	#8
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock C.P. That is a eye-opening post, w/very positive reasoning for diaper installations on these racecars.....WJ

02-10-2010, 06:13 PM	#9
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Don you call me we can build a diaper that will work.I am glad to see good post on this lets get peoples ideas