Fords next forced induction stocker - Page 2

Moparteacher · 10-12-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman

I have always read a lot of magazine articles on go-fast tech, and believe me, you can read ANYTHING.... but, the most frequent opinion I read that sets me back on my heels is, that you can make more horsepower on gasoline with carburetors, than you can with fuel injection.

I don't understand that, but I read it so often, I'm beginning to wonder if it's true....

And, should it turn out to actually BE true, why would anyone want to put fuel injection on his Pro Stocker and give away horsepower to the carbureted car in the other lane???

Just food for thought...

For the most part that has always been the rule, that is until direct injection gasoline. Direct injection allows for higher compression, for the risk of pre-ignition is diminished. Direct injection gasoline trumps carburetion, all things being equal.

Jimi B · 10-12-2009, 09:32 PM

Like most everything else it is not that one is faster than the other, it depends on the setup. It has a lot to do with the efficiency of the ports/combustion chamber. Less efficient heads are going to do better with carbs. At least this is what I have seen on the dyno on multiple hemis. carbs one hands down every time. Of course at the the time I learned this, I was working with a very respected engine builder/tuner and this is how he explained it. Makes sense. Then again, I am not quite as sold on him as an efi tuner as I am him as an engine builder and carb tuner...

Jimi B · 10-12-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by s10stocker

Great, they would probably factor them in O/SA to run with my N/A v6 pickup

If everything pans out I will be running a turbo car in O/SA next year. Dont worry.. Only 4 cylinders haha. It is an if. So we will see..

Jimi B · 10-13-2009, 11:21 PM

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bill dedman · 10-14-2009, 12:32 AM

I was astounded, recently, to learn that the 1957 Mercedes 300 SL (street car; not the race car, although it may have had it, too) had direct injection.

I didn't believe it, so, I checked the information out from several sources, and indeed, it was true.

Direct injection on a gasoline engine 52 years ago.... Who'd-a-thunkit???

Bob Bender · 10-14-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by s10stocker

Great, they would probably factor them in O/SA to run with my N/A v6 pickup

My Kingswood would have a tuff time with them also. in O/SA................lol

CycloneFE · 10-15-2009, 02:52 PM

Awesome video!! Look at how far he had to spot the Stang.

Why am I even building a big block????

John Quinn · 10-15-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman

I have always read a lot of magazine articles on go-fast tech, and believe me, you can read ANYTHING.... but, the most frequent opinion I read that sets me back on my heels is, that you can make more horsepower on gasoline with carburetors, than you can with fuel injection.

I don't understand that, but I read it so often, I'm beginning to wonder if it's true....

And, should it turn out to actually BE true, why would anyone want to put fuel injection on his Pro Stocker and give away horsepower to the carbureted car in the other lane???

Just food for thought...

Warren Johnson once explained that he wanted injection primarily so he could run a smaller hood scoop and have better aerodynamics.

10-12-2009, 09:32 PM	#12
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fords next forced induction stocker Like most everything else it is not that one is faster than the other, it depends on the setup. It has a lot to do with the efficiency of the ports/combustion chamber. Less efficient heads are going to do better with carbs. At least this is what I have seen on the dyno on multiple hemis. carbs one hands down every time. Of course at the the time I learned this, I was working with a very respected engine builder/tuner and this is how he explained it. Makes sense. Then again, I am not quite as sold on him as an efi tuner as I am him as an engine builder and carb tuner...

10-13-2009, 11:21 PM	#14
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fords next forced induction stocker ... __________________ Jimmy Bowling BF/S 3808 www.facebook.com/jimib1980

10-14-2009, 12:32 AM	#15
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Fords next forced induction stocker I was astounded, recently, to learn that the 1957 Mercedes 300 SL (street car; not the race car, although it may have had it, too) had direct injection. I didn't believe it, so, I checked the information out from several sources, and indeed, it was true. Direct injection on a gasoline engine 52 years ago.... Who'd-a-thunkit??? __________________ Bill

10-15-2009, 02:52 PM	#17
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Fords next forced induction stocker Awesome video!! Look at how far he had to spot the Stang. Why am I even building a big block???? Last edited by CycloneFE; 10-15-2009 at 03:03 PM.