Mine shaft air in TUCSON Arizona or what?

Joe Schweigert · 03-08-2008, 11:39 AM

Dave your right in the cooler months the factors are generous but they are off in the heat and other than Pomona our sea level tracks Sonoma and Bakersfield are run in the summer .... Dave Diesel out here is around 3.85 a gallon in Arizona about 3.50

Dave Ribeiro · 03-08-2008, 11:52 AM

Joe,

Hope you are doing well, say hi to everyone... I agree with the weather, but the fact is you guys get NO-HP, WHY ????? You can go as fast as you can, you have a favorable adjustment, and ontop you don't get punished.. The problem isn't how fast you can go, its you don't get any H P... Racing shouldn't be letting of at 1000' so you won't get HP.. Yes, the weather plays a major role back here too, but why do we get PUNISHED... Joe, good luck this year racing..DJR,

laura Parker · 03-08-2008, 01:27 PM

What I have said many times is let us run as fast as we can at opens. Don't count those runs towards the AHFS. This would even us out some what. And we won't need a slide ruler and a calculator to figure out what we ran. Reminds me of that fuzzy math. It's a bleeping joke Barry

Joe DeMarzo · 03-08-2008, 02:23 PM

Barry/Laura, a little identity crisis going on? I guess when you have a beast of racecar you can call yourself anything LOL. Barry I thought Opens/Divisionals do not count unless you go -1.4 under???

Everyone can talk all the smack they want, until you are on the same track on the same day it is just talk. Though I have never raced out West we have been to some slow tracks and gone fast. Bristol & Numedia. I guess the only difference is at factored tracks you can go all out with no worries, -1.4 under is not in reach for me, so I have learned to let it go.

Should you factor the air or the track (sea level) or both??

Hope to see you at the track (soon).

Barry Polley · 03-08-2008, 05:49 PM

Qualifying... Tucson.
I see Mandella GT/DA was 1.213 and 11th for the first two hits and is now 38th??? Anybody know what's up?

Barry

Todd Hoven · 03-08-2008, 07:50 PM

Just remember, that cars that are built to run in Altitude are different than cars that run sea level. You sometimes have to run a different camshaft, headers, converter, and ect. Some of the factors out west are generous, and thats why guys a 1.5 under, but those cars are still fast. The record thing isn't fair, unless you can go to an altitude track it isn't worth trying to set it with the hp deal and the factored runs. But give those guys credit out therefor some good running cars.

03-08-2008, 11:39 AM	#1
Joe Schweigert Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, calif Posts: 210 Likes: 51 Liked 16 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Mine shaft air in TUCSON Arizona or what? Dave your right in the cooler months the factors are generous but they are off in the heat and other than Pomona our sea level tracks Sonoma and Bakersfield are run in the summer .... Dave Diesel out here is around 3.85 a gallon in Arizona about 3.50 __________________ Joe Schweigert 751 SS Last edited by Joe Schweigert; 03-08-2008 at 11:42 AM. Reason: added line

03-08-2008, 11:52 AM	#2
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Mine shaft air in TUCSON Arizona or what? Joe, Hope you are doing well, say hi to everyone... I agree with the weather, but the fact is you guys get NO-HP, WHY ????? You can go as fast as you can, you have a favorable adjustment, and ontop you don't get punished.. The problem isn't how fast you can go, its you don't get any H P... Racing shouldn't be letting of at 1000' so you won't get HP.. Yes, the weather plays a major role back here too, but why do we get PUNISHED... Joe, good luck this year racing..DJR, __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK

03-08-2008, 01:27 PM	#3
laura Parker Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 14 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mine shaft air in TUCSON Arizona or what? What I have said many times is let us run as fast as we can at opens. Don't count those runs towards the AHFS. This would even us out some what. And we won't need a slide ruler and a calculator to figure out what we ran. Reminds me of that fuzzy math. It's a bleeping joke Barry

03-08-2008, 02:23 PM	#4
Joe DeMarzo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mahopac, NY Posts: 666 Likes: 48 Liked 114 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Mine shaft air in TUCSON Arizona or what? Barry/Laura, a little identity crisis going on? I guess when you have a beast of racecar you can call yourself anything LOL. Barry I thought Opens/Divisionals do not count unless you go -1.4 under??? Everyone can talk all the smack they want, until you are on the same track on the same day it is just talk. Though I have never raced out West we have been to some slow tracks and gone fast. Bristol & Numedia. I guess the only difference is at factored tracks you can go all out with no worries, -1.4 under is not in reach for me, so I have learned to let it go. Should you factor the air or the track (sea level) or both?? Hope to see you at the track (soon). __________________ Joe DeMarzo 1317 STK

03-08-2008, 05:49 PM	#5
Barry Polley Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vacaville Ca Posts: 833 Likes: 846 Liked 697 Times in 288 Posts	Re: Mine shaft air in TUCSON Arizona or what? Qualifying... Tucson. I see Mandella GT/DA was 1.213 and 11th for the first two hits and is now 38th??? Anybody know what's up? Barry

03-08-2008, 07:50 PM	#6
Todd Hoven VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,335 Likes: 923 Liked 727 Times in 152 Posts	Re: Mine shaft air in TUCSON Arizona or what? Just remember, that cars that are built to run in Altitude are different than cars that run sea level. You sometimes have to run a different camshaft, headers, converter, and ect. Some of the factors out west are generous, and thats why guys a 1.5 under, but those cars are still fast. The record thing isn't fair, unless you can go to an altitude track it isn't worth trying to set it with the hp deal and the factored runs. But give those guys credit out therefor some good running cars. __________________ Todd Hoven 1035 Stock Last edited by Todd Hoven; 03-08-2008 at 07:52 PM.

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