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Old 05-21-2014, 10:02 AM   #1
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Default 4 generation Camaro/Firebird working access

Racers,

since a clean 4 gen is relatively easy to find and reasonably priced they are attractive as a base for a GT super stocker. In addition, a "core" body in overall good condition is a big advantage from the point of body and paint prep. Plus, with each year that passes the older cars become harder to find and in a more "weathered" condition.

My question, the "issue" I see with the 4 gen is engine compartment access. Let me hear from some of you racing a 4 generation Camaro/Firebird. Other than the initial installing of the engine how is the access?
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:36 PM   #2
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Default Re: 4 generation Camaro/Firebird working access

You may want to consider a 3rd Gen Camaro or Firebird. They are easy to work on !
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:01 PM   #3
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Default Re: 4 generation Camaro/Firebird working access

With half the engine under the windshield, I don't find mine easy to work on. But, I'm an arthritic 70 year old.
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Ed, I am just like you, only three years younger. Plus I have FOS [fat, old, stiff] I better build another 3rd gen. The engine is wide open with those.
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:21 PM   #5
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Default Re: 4 generation Camaro/Firebird working access

actually if you are looking for an easy car to work on the gen 1 cars are the best as long as you aren't stuck on GT. My car is much simpler to work on than my buddies gen 3 car
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:12 PM   #6
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Default Re: 4 generation Camaro/Firebird working access

Mike, I agree but to find one at any reasonable price is just about un-heard of. Same with Nova or Chevelle.

Ease of work is not so much the issue as finding the older cars.

Also, I am not a thrash at the track racer. If I have any major problem I go home and put it on the lift.

I have raced a 3rd gen and work access was OK especially on a lift at the shop. The 4th gen looks like bad access to rear half of engine.
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:22 PM   #7
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Default Re: 4 generation Camaro/Firebird working access

I have a 1991 Formula, that I raced with a small block, and later a big block Chevy. There is a lot of room in the engine compartment, and a nice feature is you don't have to remove the hood to swap engines. Of all the cars I have raced and worked on it is by far the easiest.
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:26 PM   #8
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Default Re: 4 generation Camaro/Firebird working access

I've replied to Larry on another forum but for those interested, I copied and pasted my replies...

R&R my BBC is easier in this legal GT Super Stocker than was my Chevelle.



Modifying the K member for oil pan and header clearance and modifying the cowl for carb access/clearance will be your only issues along with building custom headers. Otherwise there are no access issues.

The K member modifications include the typical super stock treatment for oil pan as well is scalped out for the custom headers which are individual tubes. Steering is again, typical super stock car with a Wilwood rack.

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Old 05-22-2014, 01:06 AM   #9
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That modification, even though it is nice and makes room, is not legal for super stock.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:35 AM   #10
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That modification, even though it is nice and makes room, is not legal for super stock.
??? Why ?
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