What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Dean Feiock

Just curious what significant changes have taken place since 2015?

Life had a different direction for me for the last 10 years. But now I'm at a spot that I'm considering racing again. My thoughts are either going back racing in Stock OR make it a Drag and Drive car.

Dean, the bottom line is this...if you've got a good amount of money burning a hole in your pocket and have nothing else to spend it on, if you got nothing but time on your hands, if your idea of fun is sitting at the track 3-4 days NOT racing, WAITING to get 2 maybe 3 time shots if time permits, if it doesn't rain, if they don't need the time for Alky, TS, TD or juniors. Last, don't forget rules, rules and more rules. If this is your idea of fun, then dust your car off and make it a stocker. If you're smart you'll make it a street/strip car that you can enjoy whenever you want, whether it be on the street or at the track making as many passes as you want on a Test/Tune day.

[1700camaro]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

So just how close a relative of yours is "Chicken Little"?


Stan

All this HOOPLA, because of a fragile ego.

1700/781L

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Dean Feiock

Just curious what significant changes have taken place since 2015?

Life had a different direction for me for the last 10 years. But now I'm at a spot that I'm considering racing again. My thoughts are either going back racing in Stock OR make it a Drag and Drive car. The car has been sitting untouched for years. Obviously, everything that is there will need to be freshened or replaced.

Just some of the questions I have:
1) What major rules have changed over the last 10 years?
2) What can or what should be updated to be competitive based on rule changes over the last 10 years?
3) Are things like digital ignitions & data acquisition a must even on an old school carbureted stocker?

1.The solid lifter rule, and the lack of tech inspection. Not sure if solids will help your combination much. Probably be a small gain. Not necessarily worth it unless you need a camshaft. Camshafts and lifters have become an issue, the cast cores are getting hard to find, lifters are expensive and can be a problem. Playing with camshafts and lifters can be expensive and difficult. Few cam companies even care that you exist if you run anything flat tappet.



2. For performance in the engine, you can look at rings, hone finish, valve job and valves. There is definitely power to be found in the latest in rings and hone finishes, so if you need to freshen it up, that's a place to invest. Guys like Keith Jones at Total Seal will help you there. There might be some stuff in your transmission, depending on what it is, and how up to date it was then.


3 Digital ignition probably will not help you much, if any. If you're already running a good MSD 6Al or 7AL-3, you're not going to see much of anything in the ignition. To be honest, there are some relatively inexpensive data acquisition systems you can buy affordably that will help you tune your combination and see where it can improve, and often those improvements will help consistency.You do need a really good weather station. There's no electronic substitute for knowing your car and the weather to predict the ET. But with a good weather station (Kestrel), an inexpensive data acquisition system (really, just two A/F ration sensors, an RPM input and a driveshaft RPM sensor is enough, Daytona Sensor had a good setup) and the willingness to put every single factor and data input into an Excel spreadsheet you can absolutely predict your ET well enough to win.

[james schaechter]

One thing I didn’t see mentioned is that AHFS changed.
Basically only one review period and runs less than -.65 don’t count towards the avg.


https://www.nhraracer.com/content/ge...633&zoneid=132

Originally Posted by Dean Feiock

Just curious what significant changes have taken place since 2015?

Life had a different direction for me for the last 10 years. But now I'm at a spot that I'm considering racing again. My thoughts are either going back racing in Stock OR make it a Drag and Drive car. The car has been sitting untouched for years. Obviously, everything that is there will need to be freshened or replaced.

Just some of the questions I have:
1) What major rules have changed over the last 10 years?
2) What can or what should be updated to be competitive based on rule changes over the last 10 years?
3) Are things like digital ignitions & data acquisition a must even on an old school carbureted stocker?

[rboyle]

Originally Posted by Dean Feiock

Just curious what significant changes have taken place since 2015?

Life had a different direction for me for the last 10 years. But now I'm at a spot that I'm considering racing again. My thoughts are either going back racing in Stock OR make it a Drag and Drive car. The car has been sitting untouched for years. Obviously, everything that is there will need to be freshened or replaced.

Just some of the questions I have:
1) What major rules have changed over the last 10 years?
2) What can or what should be updated to be competitive based on rule changes over the last 10 years?
3) Are things like digital ignitions & data acquisition a must even on an old school carbureted stocker?

Hydraulic cams can now be solid lifter, roller rocker arms as long as they maintain stock geometry and style mounting. Data acquisition is a good tool but many do not use it. Replacement heads are allowed in some combos. Auto 1-2 is allowed as long as it?s an act of the transmission not an external device or elctric. Larger cam diameter is tolerated.
Pretty much it

[Jack McCarthy]

ill make this quick

1st there is an automatic horsepower factoring system also know as ahfs automatic help for slugs > penalty for being good at cheating the rules
2nd there is no longer any formal tech you enter online and solemnly swear its a 305 not a 350
3rd as you see there is plenty of wanna be has been keyboard jockeys on here
4th be prepared for some 160mph action in the traps nhra chose not to give the super cars thier own class
5th a second under is a pretty decent run (itll get you a review by ahfs)
6th we always go out at an obscene time like 7am and late like 8pm good luck dialing
7th they gave us unlimited valve springs and rockers sooooo cams / lifters cost more than SS stuff
8th if you wanna run national events pony up $250 x 8 divisionals

glad to have you back

captain

[Rod Greene]

So how do you set this up to ignore somebody?

[J.R. Haddad]

Cap't. Jack. you've only covered the good things about Stock. What about all the other stuff??

J.R.