Is Epping Race dying ?

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by BKSG1198

As far as the sportsman side of it, to be honest the people I talk to a lot down in the Tri-State (PA, NJ, DE, MD) hate the tow because the roads up there suck and it's a holiday....I know the Northern People come down our way but, not as many of you guys compared to down here. A lot of people have vacation planned with family since it's on the 4th of July and it's a long weekend for most. Next year it moves to August 21-23rd and it might be a smart move to do this race like they do the Gators, Lucas Race one weekend, National the next. I think you'd get a better bang for the buck with people taking one tow up there for 2 events.

I don't know who you are talking to but the pits were filled with sportsman racers from PA, NJ, DE, MD. I guess you're talking to the same people that complain about the tow to Numidia. If it ain't the hills its the roads. Racers can always find an excuse for not attending an event but bitch about everything going on at the few events they attend in a season.

When you're chasing a championship, your vacation time is spent racing. If you ain't doing that, I question why are you there?

I vote NO to running the divisional and national event back to back and if it was put up for vote, I would have voted not to move the date either and we are already looking forward to getting back to NED in September.

[pentastarrail]

Yes, I saw you Ed. Your son did a good job.
Unfortunately with my and my wifes work schedule it prohibited us from getting there any earlier.
As far as what was available for communication down below, it was NOT available up top behind the scales in the DIRT.
That's why we had to keep hanging around by the tech trailer to hear them call us.
I was NOT the only one that had issues.
You can ask anyone that was parked with us, even NHRA officials acknowledged the fact that nothing was working up top. NO text messages, NO radio, NO one coming by calling us to the lanes (except once), along with everything else I mentioned earlier about the lack of cans, lack of port-a-johns, etc, etc.

You are correct, I am a disgruntled NHRA member.
I "thought" that I would give them a second chance to prove me wrong, however, this past weekend just reinforced our thoughts.
The tough part is we love seeing the other racers, friends and the NHRA guys especially since we haven't been out much.

As you know I was at Maple Grove and LVD.
Both places I tried to slow my car down and did nothing but break parts.

And yes, I have the gear and the new converter ready to go.

On a good note my friend doubled up winning SC and TD.

[1320racer]

It was Ken's day, we were just in his way but Kyle had a great event, making his first final in only his 3rd national event.

That said, our sponsor has a quicker/faster TD than yours and he has managed to slow his down without breaking parts so it can be done. He too races PDRA but he also knows that the NHRA is the best of the best and that's why he competes at their events. He runner up to Mike Coughlin at Indy this weekend.

Frank, dig deep, think back to why you do this. Find the good in why you choose to compete at an NHRA rather than looking for the negative. You can still have fun without trying to be the quickest/fastest TD on the property and will probably turn on a few more win light too.

BTW, the radio station worked on my golf cart all the way at the turnoff/end of the track

[cmracing]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

It was Ken's day, we were just in his way but Kyle had a great event, making his first final in only his 3rd national event.

That said, our sponsor has a quicker/faster TD than yours and he has managed to slow his down without breaking parts so it can be done. He too races PDRA but he also knows that the NHRA is the best of the best and that's why he competes at their events. He runner up to Mike Coughlin at Indy this weekend.

Frank, dig deep, think back to why you do this. Find the good in why you choose to compete at an NHRA rather than looking for the negative. You can still have fun without trying to be the quickest/fastest TD on the property and will probably turn on a few more win light too.

BTW, the radio station worked on my golf cart all the way at the turnoff/end of the track

I wouldn't say Kyle was in his way. He was only .004 behind at the start, and yeah, Ken went .004 under, so getting in on that would have been spectacular!

Ken had one hell of a weekend, that's for sure!

[RKelliher]

The Epping national has changed from the start witch was not too bad. After that pit spots were cut every year for reserved parking for stock holders and family which got larger. Also those motor homes in pit are mostly sold parking spots.Plus they removed a set of stands for them.leaving no place for racers and their family to watch the pro's. People don't know the track own a lot of land but won't spend the money to expanded and improve the track. Now with the loss of englishtown they feel they don't need to. I agree the track is very good,but management needs a kick in the butt. I would love to see someone with a racer's mind run it ,but that will not happen.This is all from someone who has been coming here since mid 60's. I hope it changes

[BKSG1198]

Ed,
Not here to have an argument, Kyle did a great job of driving...Congrats to you both on a great job. If you look at the entry list out of the 130 cars that were entered in the .90 classes only 28 were below New York and most were NJ & PA out of that 28. I’m not sure what Stock & SS had as far as demographics go. I went to Epping 4 years ago and was told when they got the National Event that within a few years a new tower and expansion was to be on the map to accommodate the National because of the great crowds they saw in the first couple of years. The back to back was just an idea because honestly as a promoter that works around the D1 schedule, 2020 is going to be interesting to say the least in Sept / Oct but, when you think about it everyone does the Lebanon Valley trip then hits Epping for two weekends in a row, might as well make it one trip as long as your stuff can stay there. It was just a thought to maybe increase car counts and save on the trip. Numidia is just a race that everyone will always make an excuse for not showing up, Bob could put up a $50,000 to win .90 race and probably wouldn’t get half the cars. Either way, we all have our thoughts and all wish E-Town was around still...heck, what would happen if we still had Cayuga and Sanair on the schedule...lol.

[1320racer]

Not here to have an argument either however I'll speak up when I read fake news/narrative and the constant complaining.

Again, thank You

NHRA, Mellow Yellow, Lucas Oil, Contingency sponsors, Division Directors, their staff... all the men and women that work these events, track owners, managers and their staffs, EMS personal, the fuel and tire companies that support these events and the communities that welcome us when in town supporting these events. Ignore the vocal minority, that complain for the sake of complaining, that think they are special, that want these events and rules changed to favor them, that think these events should revolve around them and their class, some who haven't supported these events in many years.

We the silent majority appreciate your efforts and want you to know they don't go unnoticed.


Signed

The NHRA Sportsman Racer

[Pistol Pete]

Originally Posted by BKSG1198

Ed,
Not here to have an argument, Kyle did a great job of driving...Congrats to you both on a great job. If you look at the entry list out of the 130 cars that were entered in the .90 classes only 28 were below New York and most were NJ & PA out of that 28. I’m not sure what Stock & SS had as far as demographics go. I went to Epping 4 years ago and was told when they got the National Event that within a few years a new tower and expansion was to be on the map to accommodate the National because of the great crowds they saw in the first couple of years. The back to back was just an idea because honestly as a promoter that works around the D1 schedule, 2020 is going to be interesting to say the least in Sept / Oct but, when you think about it everyone does the Lebanon Valley trip then hits Epping for two weekends in a row, might as well make it one trip as long as your stuff can stay there. It was just a thought to maybe increase car counts and save on the trip. Numidia is just a race that everyone will always make an excuse for not showing up, Bob could put up a $50,000 to win .90 race and probably wouldn’t get half the cars. Either way, we all have our thoughts and all wish E-Town was around still...heck, what would happen if we still had Cayuga and Sanair on the schedule...lol.

Stock & Super Stock combined had 41 out of 97 entries that were from
NY, PA., & NJ.
Everyone else were from North of those states.

[1320racer]

the NHRA does not revolve around stock/super stock.

[farmco r/sa]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

the NHRA does not revolve around stock/super stock.

Correct. This forum does I believe