Hagerstown S-S/S Combo or Pro E T ? ? ?

[Fasttrackshooter]

as far as nost/ cars having no rules to abide by is buloney,,I"ve worked on many of these cars at my shop and in my eyes their as much class cars as many ss that still run nhra circuit,,these racers have chose to participate at these nost/ races as cost has driven many away from nhra circuit,,if you haven"t been to a all nost/ race your missing a good time,, Capital nov. 9th. ,,, friend of mine has just completed a nost/ 68 hemi cuda,,I had the pleasure of driving it for some shake down runs last weekend at cecil county, its a top shelf chassis and has well over 800hp of steam,, we had all intentions of making hagerstown race ,some tranny issues tryin to correct in time ? ? car count is the key to keep these races going,, my opinion it"s great to see these older cars still beatin the asphalt,, after all our camaro is 44 years young,,,, Ewing Bros.

[Chris1529]

Originally Posted by novassdude

I do have one question. If you allow cars from these other series how do you come up with a index for them? I have no dog in the fight just curios.

The N/SS cars that run the Tri-State S/SS series, or that have run the Buckeye S/SS series are all very nice cars. The owners keep them up very well. Alot of the cars are either ex super stock cars from back in the "day", or are re-creations of super stock cars.

I don't think it is that much of a stretch to allow them to race in the combo's.

In the Tri-State S/SS association races, there is no qualifying off the index anyway, so the fact that there is no "index" for them is not an issue.

Jack has been at Mike's Hagerstown race. I think it was two years ago with his Chieftan Firebird stocker.

The weather looks good this year. I'm coming for both days. Was working after Superstorm Sandy last year.

[rickracer]

Originally Posted by Fasttrackshooter

as far as nost/ cars having no rules to abide by is buloney,,I"ve worked on many of these cars at my shop and in my eyes their as much class cars as many ss that still run nhra circuit,,these racers have chose to participate at these nost/ races as cost has driven many away from nhra circuit,,if you haven"t been to a all nost/ race your missing a good time,, Capital nov. 9th. ,,, friend of mine has just completed a nost/ 68 hemi cuda,,I had the pleasure of driving it for some shake down runs last weekend at cecil county, its a top shelf chassis and has well over 800hp of steam,, we had all intentions of making hagerstown race ,some tranny issues tryin to correct in time ? ? car count is the key to keep these races going,, my opinion it"s great to see these older cars still beatin the asphalt,, after all our camaro is 44 years young,,,, Ewing Bros.

I agree with you Gary - I will be at Capital on the 9th to run N/SS. And you were in a Mopar? LOL

[Ross Family Racing]

When we setup the Buckeye Stock/SuperStock Drag Racing Series FIVE years ago we allowed the NSS cars to run with us. I've always felt the quality and apearance of the NSS cars was every bit as good as many of the S/SS cars out there, and better than some.
Good cars, good racers, and when you have these combo races you also need car count. The NSS cars fit right in with the S/SS cars today. How about if Mike's car count is not good and the NSS cars make the difference of a full payout or an abbreviated payout, would you be happy to have them then?
Mike, the Ross clan cannot be there this weekend. Oldest brother Mike is getting married. Hope you have great success this weekend and hope the racers have a great time as usual.
Jeff Ross
Buckeye Stock/SuperStock Drag Racing Series

[Steve1118]

A lot of us race Nostalgia because we are older guys and it allows us to do what we did in the old days, using our old stuff. I know my stuff is as old school as it gets, still using the Hemi NASCAR rods, ancient Racer Brown cam, stock iron heads, low compression, "J" converter. To be frank, it's much closer to the way the combo was produced than the class cars of today. That stuff would have wound up in the trash at Barton's, but It's reliable and it's fun, which is exactly why I do it. I have no interest at all to get into my retirement for a trick 727 with 904 innards, or a $4K "must have converter". I know of a couple of Ford Stockers that race with you that have more in their cylinder heads than I do in my entire combo. Great for those who want that, but I just want to have some fun, race the car I've owned since 1969, and hang on to yesterday for a while.

Look, if you guys don't want us around, that's OK, too. I can sit home and watch football and be just as happy. I don't need the politics and fighting that you guys do. At this age, it's a waste of my time.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Steve1118

A lot of us race Nostalgia because we are older guys and it allows us to do what we did in the old days, using our old stuff. I know my stuff is as old school as it gets, still using the Hemi NASCAR rods, ancient Racer Brown cam, stock iron heads, low compression, "J" converter. It would have wound up in the trash at Barton's, but It's reliable and it's fun, which is exactly why I do it. I have no interest at all to get into my retirement for a trick 727 with 904 innards, or a $4K "must have converter". I know of a couple of Ford Stockers that race with you that have more in their cylinder heads than I do in my entire combo. Great for those who want that, but I just want to have some fun, race the car I've owned since 1969, and hang on to yesterday for a while.

Look, if you guys don't want us around, that's OK, too. I can sit home and watch football and be just as happy. I don't need the politics and fighting that you guys do. At this age, it's a waste of my time.

I have an IDEA..

Create ..a Pure Super Stock Class

Ohhh going to get punched on this one !!!

D

[Kyle Reasbeck]

Mike does a great job putting on a series to give guys a place to race. He communicates with everyone and goes above and beyond. The few times i've run his races i've had a blast, great group of racers, well run, etc... Mike don't think your efforts aren't appreciated. As for the Pittsburgh race, it was a double edged sword I assure you, but i'd say by the end of the weekend it worked out for everyone.

I really think any complaining about the matter here is useless, as almost all the posts are in agreement that NSS running w/ Stk and SS is just fine. I for one am looking foward to coming down and racing...it's always a nice event and a fun one. Additionally, the allowance of NSS in Mike's association has been there since winter...see the threads on his class racer forum and it's all there.

I'm definitely not going to get in a pi**ing match over NSS vs Stk/SS, as i think mostly everyone here knows that Stk/SS cars are held to stricter rules engine wise, but other than that the rules are pretty much the same as far as the car goes. Though I will say at least the NSS cars were available as a titled, licensed car from the factory...maybe making them truer to form than a COPO/DragPak/CobraJet.. (that should get everyone going.....)

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by STK1217

All I see is shoe polish!!!!! So?

EXACTLY!

Argue all you want but this race is nothing more than a no electronics bracket race limited to stock, super stock and N/SS cars.

Originally Posted by cicero819

What's wrong with a COPO running Pro-ET, pays better than most Stock,Super Stock race.

NOTHING, the only problem is the ego that fills the helmet of the driver.

How many stock/super stock racers will show up for this race with their class legal cars?

http://www.looserocker.com/images/fff13.jpg

Answer...only the smart ones whose ego is only stroked by winning races and cashing big checks and not by the fact that they are class racers and think they are special.

[Steve1118]

OK, I got a little dressing down from my son, and he's right, I should have tempered my comments. He is the level headed one. I must be getting old and grumpy.

Either way, a blind man could have seen this controversy coming. What would life be without a little controversy?

Anyway, there are a lot of good racers doing both, with a lot of the older ones dong the NSS thing. Dave Reitz and Tom Sneden (82 years old) are still wheeling the Bob Banning Dodges from the sixties. The "Bounty Hunters" Bob Banning Dodge has won the lucrative 422 series two years in a row. Bob Harrop, the winner of the first SS Nationals at York is still involved. The "Rev Mr. Black" wedge Plymouth, many more that the more elderly among you would remember are very involved in the NSS race venue. Perhaps if everyone would stop fighting long enough it would be fun sometime to put on a big, combined race....NSS vs new school. Now, THAT might be one to see.

Either way, looking forward to Saturday. Should be fun. The reaction on this board will be interesting if an NSS car would win it.

[7423]

[QUOTE=1320racer;406557]EXACTLY!


How many stock/super stock racers will show up for this race with their class legal cars?



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I would be the first one in line for tech.
We have nothing on the west coast even close to this. We have lots of .90 clubs and events but zero S/SS combos. Frankly, I won't care who was in the other lane.......we dial, stage and race. First one to the end without being under is the winner..............kinda like that ugly "B" word. S/SS drivers need seat time. I would kill to have combos and club stuff as often as what y'all have in D1. And I would welcome the Nos S/SS cars with open arms.