What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?

[JGrossijr]

Indexes haven't changed in 15 years so if that wasn't a problem for you before, it won't be now.
Stock is still an all run category except for Indy, so if you can get an entry, your in the eliminator.
Nationals can be difficult to get into without a good bank of grade points in Stock. Contrary to what some will tell you, there's a steady stream of newcomers and return participants in Stock eliminator.
You do not need a digital ignition or data logger to be competitive.
A weather station with good prediction software is an important tool.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Dean Feiock

Just curious what significant changes have taken place since 2015?

Life had a different direction for me for the last 10 years. But now I'm at a spot that I'm considering racing again. My thoughts are either going back racing in Stock OR make it a Drag and Drive car. The car has been sitting untouched for years. Obviously, everything that is there will need to be freshened or replaced.

Just some of the questions I have:
1) What major rules have changed over the last 10 years?
2) What can or what should be updated to be competitive based on rule changes over the last 10 years?
3) Are things like digital ignitions & data acquisition a must even on an old school carbureted stocker?

1.The solid lifter rule, and the lack of tech inspection. Not sure if solids will help your combination much. Probably be a small gain. Not necessarily worth it unless you need a camshaft. Camshafts and lifters have become an issue, the cast cores are getting hard to find, lifters are expensive and can be a problem. Playing with camshafts and lifters can be expensive and difficult. Few cam companies even care that you exist if you run anything flat tappet.



2. For performance in the engine, you can look at rings, hone finish, valve job and valves. There is definitely power to be found in the latest in rings and hone finishes, so if you need to freshen it up, that's a place to invest. Guys like Keith Jones at Total Seal will help you there. There might be some stuff in your transmission, depending on what it is, and how up to date it was then.


3 Digital ignition probably will not help you much, if any. If you're already running a good MSD 6Al or 7AL-3, you're not going to see much of anything in the ignition. To be honest, there are some relatively inexpensive data acquisition systems you can buy affordably that will help you tune your combination and see where it can improve, and often those improvements will help consistency.You do need a really good weather station. There's no electronic substitute for knowing your car and the weather to predict the ET. But with a good weather station (Kestrel), an inexpensive data acquisition system (really, just two A/F ration sensors, an RPM input and a driveshaft RPM sensor is enough, Daytona Sensor had a good setup) and the willingness to put every single factor and data input into an Excel spreadsheet you can absolutely predict your ET well enough to win.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

As usual, mr. desk top dyno, a nobody, a computer programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day, has decided again, to reply only to comment about me.

Pathetic!

You have been on this forum more than 3 times as long as I have. During that time you have made more than 3 times as many posts as I have. Yet you have had less of your posted liked.

Now that just means the quality of your posts is just Pathetic!

Stan

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

You have been on this forum more than 3 times as long as I have. During that time you have made more than 3 times as many posts as I have. Yet you have had less of your posted liked.

Now that just means the quality of your posts is just Pathetic!

Stan

i see him as a troll.

[1320racer]

David Lee another clueless nobody that ain't got shyt nor done shyt on the track worth talking about

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by David Lee

i see him as a troll.

David,
It is interesting how someone who says that he posts truths and facts, can resort to nothing but name calling when presented with truths and facts.


Stan

[1320racer]

WRONG, again old man, the TRUTH and the FACTS are like you, he's a clueless nobody.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by JGrossijr

You do not need a data logger to be competitive.

I disagree to some extent, as Alan stated...

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

there are some affordable data acquisition systems you can buy affordably that will help you tune your combination and see where it can improve, and often those improvements will help consistency.

ABSOLUTELY!

the 2025 season is upon us and data acquisition systems are not only being use by the Pros, racers that are smart, racers that want to improve their program, racers that want to WIN, are equipping their race car, regardless of class, with a data logger. Now if they don't have the skills to own both ends of the track, a data logger won't help them there.

[CMcAllister]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Contingency is peanuts now
Class eliminations are practically gone
Entry fees are up
Car counts are strong in the northeast
Race fuel and parts are thru the roof
No tech?.
Jr dragsters are the norm



Purse money been the same ?weird huh

In the 90s, a person could win close to 20K at a national, maybe more, if they had the car stickered right.

Not even close to that now, and now it costs several multiples of what it did then, just to show up and not embarrass yourself.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by CMcAllister

In the 90s, a person could win close to 20K at a national, maybe more, if they had the car stickered right.

Not even close to that now, and now it costs several multiples of what it did then, just to show up and not embarrass yourself.

NHRA literally drove off the vast majority of contingency sponsors in the last 15-20 years. Their treatment of sponsors is honestly abusive. I worked for a former contingency sponsor, and know several owners of multiple former contingency sponsors. Never mind the fact that they haven't raised the purse significantly in this CENTURY.