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Old 12-16-2009, 09:20 PM   #11
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Larry, those are the NHRA HP rating's

Ed, CJ's will be built with all engine combo's

Jim, from what I have been told, all 50 have been sold. Also, there have been a large number of body in white and their respective kits purchased.

No they are not street legal, the rules book does not state that they have to be street legal, just available to purchase.

Here is the rule from NHRA.

"OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production run into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special run must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."
Kenny:

Your charts show 10 different combos, that means 50 cars per kit car combo must be sold, that's 500 cars. Or am I missing something here?
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:29 PM   #12
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Default Re: CJ engine options and HP ratings.

Your missing something alright. You do not need to have 50 combo's for each class.

And its not my chart, it came right from Ford Racing.

Not sure where your going with your questions, I think your need to email NHRA if you want more answers.

I was asked to post the numbers not defend them.

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Old 12-16-2009, 11:06 PM   #13
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Jim Carter,
It's stated as "50 units of an already accepted body style"
It's now the body, not the drivetrain. Like it or not, NHRA now has a crate motor class. I wonder if it will stop here? I doubt it. I assume we will have something like IHRA's crate motor class, even if a motor is an electrical device and an engine is what we run in our race cars.
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:35 AM   #14
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What are these engines...complete and direct from the Ford-dealer?..with the car or do you build them? all ford parts or Edelbrock top ends? Roller or hyd cams? inj. or carbs ? valve sizes etc...
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:48 AM   #15
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All you guys forget about when the LT1 came out it was rated at 275hp now it rated at 346hp a 71hp increase talk about soft when it came out. What about the LS1 how many hp has it got in the last ten years.
And what about all the soft olds and buicks from the 80's when GM was in charge of hp just about. Now it's fords turn so shut up and race, every dog has it day. If combos are not soft when they first come out no one will build them. This is not something new it has been going on for 40 plus years. So if you don't like it stop racing, deal with it and work on you ***** or build a ford if it's so easy. How many of you people crying race more then 4 NHRA races a year anyway? I know Greg hill races more then four but Greg is always complaining about something (Ha Ha) Merry Christmas buddy see you in Jan.

Chuck D good luck to all my I/SA,J/SA& K/SA competitors next year you will need it. If it's not heads up then it's not cool.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:08 AM   #16
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All you guys forget about when the LT1 came out it was rated at 275hp now it rated at 346hp a 71hp increase talk about soft when it came out. What about the LS1 how many hp has it got in the last ten years.
And what about all the soft olds and buicks from the 80's when GM was in charge of hp just about. Now it's fords turn so shut up and race, every dog has it day. If combos are not soft when they first come out no one will build them. This is not something new it has been going on for 40 plus years. So if you don't like it stop racing, deal with it and work on you ***** or build a ford if it's so easy. How many of you people crying race more then 4 NHRA races a year anyway? I know Greg hill races more then four but Greg is always complaining about something (Ha Ha) Merry Christmas buddy see you in Jan.

Chuck D good luck to all my I/SA,J/SA& K/SA competitors next year you will need it. If it's not heads up then it's not cool.
for the last time, GM sold 100,000's of Fbodys with those engines at those HP ratings. they were not sandbagged for a benefit in NHRA. It just so happens that people were really unlocking the potential of the EFI motors at the same time. NHRA saw they had a problem on their hands and created the FI classes, let them sort themselves out and then integrated them back into the classes they need to be in.
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Jim Carter,
It's stated as "50 units of an already accepted body style"
It's now the body, not the drivetrain. Like it or not, NHRA now has a crate motor class. I wonder if it will stop here? I doubt it. I assume we will have something like IHRA's crate motor class, even if a motor is an electrical device and an engine is what we run in our race cars.
Jeff:
Does this mean I can put an L-88 in my Chevelle? I think GM sold at least 50 Chevelles in any given year. What's good for the goose...
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I have to assume it's coming....
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I wonder if these new engines can be run in SS GT?

the 352/285 looks like a good combo
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the 352/285 looks like a good combo
That's an understatement!
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