New to class racing - Page 2

Shawn Anderson · 08-11-2009, 09:04 AM

Good points on the trans sounds like one of the key peices for the car to be compedtive. On the rear end I already have a Moser 31 spline 9 inch for a fox body mustang so unless it robs way to much power I will run it. Other parts I already have I am planning on using are, Bogart D10 wheels (15x3.5 and 15x9.5), global west del-a-lum bushings for the front and I have but am not if they are what I should put on the car, lake would shocks and lift bars (was thinking more of global west lower rears and QA1 shock). Thanks again guys trying to put a plan together.

Sean Marconette · 08-11-2009, 11:23 AM

You are on the right track. The 9" will give you an advantage of more gear selection, at a cost of being less efficient than an 8.8. Brakes are another disadvantage with the 9" unless you go aftermarket disc, and that is due to the weight.

Sean

Shawn Anderson · 08-11-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Marconette

You are on the right track. The 9" will give you an advantage of more gear selection, at a cost of being less efficient than an 8.8. Brakes are another disadvantage with the 9" unless you go aftermarket disc, and that is due to the weight.

Sean

This rear end has the ends that takes stock brakes(drums), are aftermarket brakes needed or something to add later? (if I were looking to try to gain a small amount)

Sean Marconette · 08-11-2009, 12:57 PM

They are not needed, but something to concider. Start with what you have and build on it. But the trans, clutch and suspension should be at the top of the priority list. The Del-Alum are the best in my opinion on the front suspension. Go to divisional races and look around. You do not have to have the trick of the week to get going.

Sean

greg fulk · 08-12-2009, 04:09 PM

I'll 2nd that... get it togather & get it out their... you'll find out what you need.

Rory McNeil · 08-12-2009, 11:13 PM

Like others have mentioned, it`s best to bite the bullet and get a good trans, clutch and rearend together, from the start. When I first put my 85 Mustang Stocker together, I had thought that since the T5 in high 12 second street strip 302 Fairmont held up for 5 seasons, that a lighter Mustang should be a good place to put another T5 into. I was wrong. Although the Mustang was only running a couple of tenths under the index at the time, by the end of the season, I had 3 hurt T5`s, bent mainshaft, burred up sliders, a cracked case, and bad gear teeth, (folding over).A few years ago, I bought a nice Jerico DR4 from this website, and considering it was from a 5.0 Fox Mustang, and came with a shifter, clutch and flywheel, I considered the $2000. asking pice a bargain. The Jerico has been in my Mustang for 3 or 4 seasons now, and has been absolutely flawless. I also have a Jerico in my 10.0 ET bracket car, (also bought used, over 10 years ago), and other than breaking 3rd gear earlier this season, (parts cost $300. to repair it), it has also been trouble-free. Plus, unlike most racing parts, the Jericos really maintain their value, I could likely get back my purchase price if I ever decided to sell one.(extremely unlikely!). As for the diff, I have a 8.8 in my Mustang, but if I did it all over again, I`d prefer a 9". The ratio selection is much better, and after breaking 1/2 the pinion teeth of my 8.8 gear set a month ago, I`m a bit jaded with the 8.8. Plus, the housing has been flexing, hopefully a recent pair of braces will halt that.Of course, gear changes with the 9" are simpler, especially if you have a spare "chunk" on hand. Good luck.

Jeff Lee · 08-13-2009, 12:04 AM

I know of a very fast 5.0 Mustang that followed all of the advice and put in a DR4 Jerico. Ran great, no problems. He finally went against all the wisdom and replaced the Jerico with a 5-speed Liberty. Picked up over two-tenths. Those little engines like the spreads offered on a 5-speed. Also see Advanced Clutches for your clutch / flywheel. Again, those little engines really like them light.
It may be pricey but do it right the first time and you'll be many dollars ahead in the long run.

Shawn Anderson · 08-13-2009, 06:07 AM

Thanks guy's really does make sense to build a car I can grow with, can really see why auto's are so popular (cost wise) but if cheap were the goal I would not be looking at building a stocker.

Sean Marconette · 08-13-2009, 10:01 AM

Jeff is right,

Have a plan. That is the most important part, and yes the initial cost is high. But do it right the first time and you will not be hurting stuff or wishing you had done this or that.

Sean

08-18-2009, 12:56 PM

First: I want to thank Greg Fulk for recommending me to do cylinder head work for you.

Shawn,
Please give me a call anytime. I spend a ton of time on the flow bench I'm very economical. I've had a bunch of cars thru the barn. I'm sure I can really help you out.
Best regards,
Chris Hardy
231-773-7252

08-11-2009, 09:04 AM	#11
Shawn Anderson Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New to class racing Good points on the trans sounds like one of the key peices for the car to be compedtive. On the rear end I already have a Moser 31 spline 9 inch for a fox body mustang so unless it robs way to much power I will run it. Other parts I already have I am planning on using are, Bogart D10 wheels (15x3.5 and 15x9.5), global west del-a-lum bushings for the front and I have but am not if they are what I should put on the car, lake would shocks and lift bars (was thinking more of global west lower rears and QA1 shock). Thanks again guys trying to put a plan together.

08-11-2009, 11:23 AM	#12
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 794 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: New to class racing You are on the right track. The 9" will give you an advantage of more gear selection, at a cost of being less efficient than an 8.8. Brakes are another disadvantage with the 9" unless you go aftermarket disc, and that is due to the weight. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

08-11-2009, 12:57 PM	#14
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 794 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: New to class racing They are not needed, but something to concider. Start with what you have and build on it. But the trans, clutch and suspension should be at the top of the priority list. The Del-Alum are the best in my opinion on the front suspension. Go to divisional races and look around. You do not have to have the trick of the week to get going. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

08-12-2009, 04:09 PM	#15
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New to class racing I'll 2nd that... get it togather & get it out their... you'll find out what you need. __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

08-12-2009, 11:13 PM	#16
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: New to class racing Like others have mentioned, it`s best to bite the bullet and get a good trans, clutch and rearend together, from the start. When I first put my 85 Mustang Stocker together, I had thought that since the T5 in high 12 second street strip 302 Fairmont held up for 5 seasons, that a lighter Mustang should be a good place to put another T5 into. I was wrong. Although the Mustang was only running a couple of tenths under the index at the time, by the end of the season, I had 3 hurt T5`s, bent mainshaft, burred up sliders, a cracked case, and bad gear teeth, (folding over).A few years ago, I bought a nice Jerico DR4 from this website, and considering it was from a 5.0 Fox Mustang, and came with a shifter, clutch and flywheel, I considered the $2000. asking pice a bargain. The Jerico has been in my Mustang for 3 or 4 seasons now, and has been absolutely flawless. I also have a Jerico in my 10.0 ET bracket car, (also bought used, over 10 years ago), and other than breaking 3rd gear earlier this season, (parts cost $300. to repair it), it has also been trouble-free. Plus, unlike most racing parts, the Jericos really maintain their value, I could likely get back my purchase price if I ever decided to sell one.(extremely unlikely!). As for the diff, I have a 8.8 in my Mustang, but if I did it all over again, I`d prefer a 9". The ratio selection is much better, and after breaking 1/2 the pinion teeth of my 8.8 gear set a month ago, I`m a bit jaded with the 8.8. Plus, the housing has been flexing, hopefully a recent pair of braces will halt that.Of course, gear changes with the 9" are simpler, especially if you have a spare "chunk" on hand. Good luck. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

08-13-2009, 12:04 AM	#17
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New to class racing I know of a very fast 5.0 Mustang that followed all of the advice and put in a DR4 Jerico. Ran great, no problems. He finally went against all the wisdom and replaced the Jerico with a 5-speed Liberty. Picked up over two-tenths. Those little engines like the spreads offered on a 5-speed. Also see Advanced Clutches for your clutch / flywheel. Again, those little engines really like them light. It may be pricey but do it right the first time and you'll be many dollars ahead in the long run. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

08-13-2009, 06:07 AM	#18
Shawn Anderson Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New to class racing Thanks guy's really does make sense to build a car I can grow with, can really see why auto's are so popular (cost wise) but if cheap were the goal I would not be looking at building a stocker.

08-13-2009, 10:01 AM	#19
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 794 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: New to class racing Jeff is right, Have a plan. That is the most important part, and yes the initial cost is high. But do it right the first time and you will not be hurting stuff or wishing you had done this or that. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

08-18-2009, 12:56 PM	#20
Chris Hardy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New to class racing First: I want to thank Greg Fulk for recommending me to do cylinder head work for you. Shawn, Please give me a call anytime. I spend a ton of time on the flow bench I'm very economical. I've had a bunch of cars thru the barn. I'm sure I can really help you out. Best regards, Chris Hardy 231-773-7252

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