vp racing fuel - Page 2

Rory McNeil · 09-23-2009, 02:22 AM

Thats right, you are required to run a fuel that is on NHRA`s "accepted fuel list", and that fuel WILL be tested against the specs that NHRA is given, by the manufacturer, for the particular brand & version of fuel that you are claiming. Since "normal" gas station pump gases are not on the NHRA fuel list, there are no specs provided, so they are ineligible. "Lesser" fuel or not, if it`s not on the list, you can`t run it, at least at a NHRA divisional or national event. On my particular low compression, smogger Ford combo, I have tried Chevron mid grade pump gas at a local track test or bracket race, and it ran just fine, and actually a tic faster than the VP C12 I normally run, the problem lies in ensuring that all the pump gas has been flushed/drained out, so as not to contaminate the specs of the approved fuel when the time comes to ran a NHRA race.

njk53 · 09-23-2009, 09:22 AM

I agree with Michael Beard. Sunoco is just as good as any compairable fuel in the VP line up. VP wants you to believe that they are providing you something special for the premium dollar. As I said before in another thead, if VP is better it isn't $6 more per gallon better.

Jimi B · 10-06-2010, 02:16 AM

I might make it to the open @ Indy this weekend...

So looking at the accepted fuels list.. Under Sunoco they have Turbo Blue? Is that the brand Turbo Blue or are they calling Sunocos Supreme that is blue Turbo Blue?

Also so if I have some C16 that is fine in Stock? I didnt see anything specific about stock or s/stk only running a specific fuel on the list like other classes..

Charlie Yannetti · 10-06-2010, 10:29 AM

Be careful what you listen to and who it's coming from.. VP told me that Q-16 was the best thing since vanilla ice cream.. just put it in and pick up .03 to .05 and up to 5 mph.. sounds great until you find that you have to change jets and sometimes timing.. drain your fuel bowls and lines, and to be safe, get it out of your tank and pumps between races.. needless to say, I didn't buy any..

Jimi B · 10-06-2010, 12:45 PM

Oh I know what fuel I would like to run an how to tune for it. I'm just making sure what I want to run is legal. C16 is about my 2nd choice, VP Import is probably my 1st. However, honestly 92 octane would work just fine for me Hahah.

Tim Ellis · 10-06-2010, 06:50 PM

I got Sunoco standard this year for 5.75 a gallon.My car runs the same on unleaded premium, wish they'd let me run that at about 3.15 a gal. Rory, the place that sells the sunoco is in Longview washington.

Rory McNeil · 10-06-2010, 08:03 PM

Tim, do you buy the Sunoco by the gallon, or by the drum? I have been buying VP by the drum, as it is the only commonly available race fuel in this area. Like yours, my Mustang runs just as good (if not a tick better), on pump gas, 89 octane Chevron in my case. Kinda sucks pouring $$$ fuel in a 8.4-1 compression engine!

DemonChick · 10-06-2010, 08:17 PM

Rory..........FYI....Glenn Ingulden at Corvette Specialties sells Sonoco by the drum. We've been buying it from him all season, so much cheaper than VP.

Tim Ellis · 10-06-2010, 09:56 PM

Rory, the place has a pump out front that you pump into your own jugs. I don't think by the drum was any different price except maybe for the drum deposit. Next time I'm gonna get a drum so I don't have to worry as much about the fuel passing fuel check over a few months{hopefully}

Mike Croley · 10-07-2010, 03:14 PM

It's been said many times , but bears repeating . The IHRA / NHRA fuel checks are deadly . Go to the web site of whichever of the two you're planning to race in , and read the accepted fuels list very carefully . If the race fuel you're using isn't there , it isn't legal . Doesn't matter what the race fuel salesman told you , doesn't matter what another racer told you . If you don't find the exact name , the exact octane , the exact color of race fuel you use on that list , you're not legal .
I f the race fuel you're looking at buying is made in several different places across the country , you are probably going to have a problem with consistency . Be carefull .
Check the specs on race fuel to be sure you're getting value for your money . Race fuel isn't always overpriced .
Here are the Motor Octane numbers of several 110 race fuels .
Sunoco 110 is 105 Motor Octane
VP 110 is 107 Motor Octane
Competition Race Fuels 110 is 108.5 Motor Octane

Mike Croley
Master dist . for Competition Race Fuels

09-23-2009, 02:22 AM	#11
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,306 Likes: 309 Liked 1,081 Times in 297 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel Thats right, you are required to run a fuel that is on NHRA`s "accepted fuel list", and that fuel WILL be tested against the specs that NHRA is given, by the manufacturer, for the particular brand & version of fuel that you are claiming. Since "normal" gas station pump gases are not on the NHRA fuel list, there are no specs provided, so they are ineligible. "Lesser" fuel or not, if it`s not on the list, you can`t run it, at least at a NHRA divisional or national event. On my particular low compression, smogger Ford combo, I have tried Chevron mid grade pump gas at a local track test or bracket race, and it ran just fine, and actually a tic faster than the VP C12 I normally run, the problem lies in ensuring that all the pump gas has been flushed/drained out, so as not to contaminate the specs of the approved fuel when the time comes to ran a NHRA race. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

09-23-2009, 09:22 AM	#12
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel I agree with Michael Beard. Sunoco is just as good as any compairable fuel in the VP line up. VP wants you to believe that they are providing you something special for the premium dollar. As I said before in another thead, if VP is better it isn't $6 more per gallon better. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

10-06-2010, 02:16 AM	#13
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel I might make it to the open @ Indy this weekend... So looking at the accepted fuels list.. Under Sunoco they have Turbo Blue? Is that the brand Turbo Blue or are they calling Sunocos Supreme that is blue Turbo Blue? Also so if I have some C16 that is fine in Stock? I didnt see anything specific about stock or s/stk only running a specific fuel on the list like other classes..

10-06-2010, 10:29 AM	#14
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 566 Likes: 187 Liked 191 Times in 82 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel Be careful what you listen to and who it's coming from.. VP told me that Q-16 was the best thing since vanilla ice cream.. just put it in and pick up .03 to .05 and up to 5 mph.. sounds great until you find that you have to change jets and sometimes timing.. drain your fuel bowls and lines, and to be safe, get it out of your tank and pumps between races.. needless to say, I didn't buy any..

10-06-2010, 12:45 PM	#15
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel Oh I know what fuel I would like to run an how to tune for it. I'm just making sure what I want to run is legal. C16 is about my 2nd choice, VP Import is probably my 1st. However, honestly 92 octane would work just fine for me Hahah.

10-06-2010, 06:50 PM	#16
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel I got Sunoco standard this year for 5.75 a gallon.My car runs the same on unleaded premium, wish they'd let me run that at about 3.15 a gal. Rory, the place that sells the sunoco is in Longview washington.

10-06-2010, 08:03 PM	#17
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,306 Likes: 309 Liked 1,081 Times in 297 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel Tim, do you buy the Sunoco by the gallon, or by the drum? I have been buying VP by the drum, as it is the only commonly available race fuel in this area. Like yours, my Mustang runs just as good (if not a tick better), on pump gas, 89 octane Chevron in my case. Kinda sucks pouring $$$ fuel in a 8.4-1 compression engine! __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

10-06-2010, 08:17 PM	#18
DemonChick Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mission BC Posts: 45 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel Rory..........FYI....Glenn Ingulden at Corvette Specialties sells Sonoco by the drum. We've been buying it from him all season, so much cheaper than VP.

10-06-2010, 09:56 PM	#19
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel Rory, the place has a pump out front that you pump into your own jugs. I don't think by the drum was any different price except maybe for the drum deposit. Next time I'm gonna get a drum so I don't have to worry as much about the fuel passing fuel check over a few months{hopefully}

10-07-2010, 03:14 PM	#20
Mike Croley Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vp racing fuel It's been said many times , but bears repeating . The IHRA / NHRA fuel checks are deadly . Go to the web site of whichever of the two you're planning to race in , and read the accepted fuels list very carefully . If the race fuel you're using isn't there , it isn't legal . Doesn't matter what the race fuel salesman told you , doesn't matter what another racer told you . If you don't find the exact name , the exact octane , the exact color of race fuel you use on that list , you're not legal . I f the race fuel you're looking at buying is made in several different places across the country , you are probably going to have a problem with consistency . Be carefull . Check the specs on race fuel to be sure you're getting value for your money . Race fuel isn't always overpriced . Here are the Motor Octane numbers of several 110 race fuels . Sunoco 110 is 105 Motor Octane VP 110 is 107 Motor Octane Competition Race Fuels 110 is 108.5 Motor Octane Mike Croley Master dist . for Competition Race Fuels

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