Best B.O.P. stock and super stockers of all time

[oldskool]

As mentioned, there have been some competitive '77 Lemans, GP, & Catalina models.

I mentioned the GP, driven by Don Himes, now driven by Lauren Kanuik. She's actually driving at the Dutch Classic, today, & picked up the O/SA class win.

https://www.nhra.com/results/2021/lu...-eliminator/c1

Bob Michael built & raced a Lemans & a Catalina. He sold the Lemans to Dave Ribeiro.

Kyle Riley drove a Lemans. I think it was one of those cars which has changed hands several times. Seems that the story has been told that Kyle's Lemans was damaged. Dean Ribeiro sold him a nice body, which he used to rebuild his Stocker. I think the Stephenson family had one, maybe the same car ? Jack Larson ended up with the Kyle Riley car. Then he sent it down to one of his kin, in Louisiana, who later passed away. Don't know who has the car now.

Will put together some pics of these cars, & any other info I find.

[DeuceCoupe]

I'm hunting for info on John Sargi's Pontiac (year unknown but 1967 or older) that won B/SA at the 1967 NHRA Winternationals.

I've guessed a 67 GTO RamAir1 but that's a total guess.

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

I'm hunting for info on John Sargi's Pontiac (year unknown but 1967 or older) that won B/SA at the 1967 NHRA Winternationals.

I've guessed a 67 GTO RamAir1 but that's a total guess.

Sorry, never heard that name.

The '65 Tri-Power GTO's ran B/S. But, I doubt anybody ran a 2-speed auto Goat at the Winter Nats.

So, I'd guess a '67 GTO, OR a big 421SD car. Have seen those cars from A/SA down to D/SA.

But, the Limelighter '67 RA GTO is said to have run D/S, in '68. So, I don't know if one could have run B/SA in '67, or not.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by oldskool

Sorry, never heard that name.

The '65 Tri-Power GTO's ran B/S. But, I doubt anybody ran a 2-speed auto Goat at the Winter Nats.

So, I'd guess a '67 GTO, OR a big 421SD car. Have seen those cars from A/SA down to D/SA.

But, the Limelighter '67 RA GTO is said to have run D/S, in '68. So, I don't know if one could have run B/SA in '67, or not.

Thanks.
I sorta used that same logic. The 66 GTO also fits class but I figured with no hi stall converters, nobody would run the powerglide.

The CURRENT NHRA class guide only allows the 421/405hp-SD in the Catalinas. Not even the Grand Prix, even though 16 total 421SD Grand Prix cars were made factory. Even the Grand Prix IF the 421SD was legal, still has W/P=9.47, too light. If I add 56 lb for a Hydramatic, then the Grand Prix fits at W/P=9.60, but I didnt think they came with the Hydramatic.

I've never heard of the 421SD being NHRA legal in heavier cars eg Bonneville etc, but if so, that would fit at W/P=9.76.

[oldskool]

",,,nobody would run the powerglide..."

You probably already know this. But, since you are lookin for some hard-to-find racing details, you may wanna keep it in mind for future posts.

The '64-'66 GTO's did NOT run a Powerglide.

It was a BOP 2-speed. I think Olds called it a "Jetaway", Buick called it a "Super Turbine 300", & I don't know that Pontiac even had a name for it. They could use a TH350/TH400 type converter. I think there were some switch-pitch converter models, also. I realize that some people call all GM 2-speeds Powerglides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Turbine_300

Pontiac DID use a dual-pattern PG in, I think it was '70 & '71. I bought a Bird with one in it, from a U-Pull-It yard. Also saw one in a Lemans.

[oldskool]

OK, here's a partial answer to the question.

Some of the '67 GTO's did run B/SA.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by oldskool

OK, here's a partial answer to the question.

Some of the '67 GTO's did run B/SA.

Thanks, I thought it fit, I get Wt/HP=9.66 for 67 GTO RamAir.

Sometimes I DO forget the 66 Tempest wasnt quite a Powerglide - I have it in my trans file as Tempestorque.

I just remember my buddy's 66 LeMans back in the 1970s, little 326 and a big Qjet we put on top one weekend - we thought we'd have a Big Block then. Instead I just remember it howling thru that Looooooong 1st gear, just like a powerglide so I probably remember them that way.

From the table I posted in the other thread, you can see why I'm trying to figure out all the Pontiacs in there. All the pink cells are my guesses. No idea on a couple of them.

[oldskool]

"...From the table I posted in the other thread..."

Link to that table please.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by oldskool

"...From the table I posted in the other thread..."

Link to that table please.

Here you go, thanks for looking!

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...t=62802&page=3

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

Here you go, thanks for looking!

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...t=62802&page=3

Sorry that I don't understand.

You have "r scoville" listed with 3 different Pontiacs, winning F/SA, with the same numbers.

So, did you just list 3 different cars you THINK he could have been driving ? Or in other words: Were you just listing 3 possibilities ?