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Old 01-10-2021, 01:28 PM   #1
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Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

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We support it because of the survival instinct. There's no good choice for us guys. Yes the Democrats are pushing agendas that will hurt the oil industry, but there's a lot more to this battle than one industry.
And I fully agree with your previous statement about firings. Boy could I tell you some stories. The union sit in on new hire interviews, and even with the best intentions, some of our new hires turned out to be real duds. We tried like heck to get problem maker/lazy new hires dismissed before their probationary period ran out and they became members of the union. But our company had a big heart, or sometimes just laziness, and it was tough to get them to unload people. Once they became paying members, we were forced by law to represent them. Our membership did not want slackers, far from it. If one member did not carry his weight, the guy beside him, or even another shift did. The ones I hated most was when one member was against another member. I remember when a fight broke out between a maintenance worker and a production worker. Both of them very good workers. The plant manager came to me and said " This is a UNION issue. " You fix it !
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Old 01-10-2021, 02:41 PM   #2
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Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

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One other thing Randy, just so you understand, the "Bosses" don't vote. I got 1 vote, just like any other member. You being a member, I assume your International might have had some other way, but all the ones I'm associated with vote by memberships. The entire membership is the only one that approves, disapproves, or votes to strike. The union bosses are the ones negotiating the contracts, and they have the final say in what is brought back to the membership, but the membership decides the outcome and can turn down the proposed contract. Those negotiators are elected, so even that is rank and file decided. There is a lot of misinformation on these subjects, and I like to explain so people get the low down ...It's really amazing to me, when only 10 % of America is unionised, that such effort is put into eliminating what is left.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:23 PM   #3
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Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

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All of that I coming under the Biden regime Randy. I have lived in Florida my whole life. No one in my family down here is in the union or has been in a union. My dad was nuclear physicist and worked for General Electric, He made a six figure salary. My sisters and I all make 6 figure salaries and only one of us has a degree. Hard work snd dedication is what it takes to be successful. You have to make your boss or company owners some money. That's what make business go. The company I work for rewards their employees for longevity and production. There is almost no union in Florida. The unions here are like a temp agency. Most unions here are catering to the government. Teachers, fire fighters and some police depts., Maybe bus drivers.
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All of that I coming under the Biden regime Randy. I have lived in Florida my whole life. No one in my family down here is in the union or has been in a union. My dad was nuclear physicist and worked for General Electric, He made a six figure salary. My sisters and I all make 6 figure salaries and only one of us has a degree. Hard work snd dedication is what it takes to be successful. You have to make your boss or company owners some money. That's what make business go. The company I work for rewards their employees for longevity and production. There is almost no union in Florida. The unions here are like a temp agency. Most unions here are catering to the government. Teachers, fire fighters and some police depts., Maybe bus drivers.
Mike that is why I went management 25 years ago, I still pay my dues because they control a pension I paid into. I use to tell union members IBEW, that we are like cars, if you make a bad car people will not buy it, and our car is our labor Period. Some got it some didn't.

On another note, I won the $100 CNN, MSNBC bet, none of them are putting death counts up for covid, next week it is all on pervert Joe and the Crack W****. Tells me it is a scam, very few flu deaths this flu season.

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So it looks like a congress women or should I say a Congress it, not to use offensive pronouns, tested positive for covid, she is blaming a republican that was not wearing a mask during the Capital lock down, hmm if mask work and she was wearing one why did she get covid, hmm must of went through the mask, I guess it can't exit the mask. Wow what do we do now.

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Randy I was just watching the news. Something I don’t usually do. They were all worked up about the recent wave of new virus that has the hospitals overloaded. I think the news is over reacting to pave the way for a Biden lock down after the inaugurations they showed was people in intensive care that were near death might not have even been Covid related. You just can’t trust what the news is telling us.
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So it looks like a congress women or should I say a Congress it, not to use offensive pronouns, tested positive for covid, she is blaming a republican that was not wearing a mask during the Capital lock down, hmm if mask work and she was wearing one why did she get covid, hmm must of went through the mask, I guess it can't exit the mask. Wow what do we do now.

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I think it's a good idea to wear a mask when you go out and there will be other people close by. However, if you get Covid19 it is irresponsible to blame somebody that you were near. How does the congresswoman know how or when was got infected? All her statement does is give my friend Randy more reason not to wear one.

Randy, If you go out in public, think about wearing a mask. It's easy, it dosen't hurt, it's only for a lil while and might even help. You do not want to get that bug, honest.

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Old 01-12-2021, 11:26 PM   #8
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I think it's a good idea to wear a mask when you go out and there will be other people close by. However, if you get Covid19 it is irresponsible to blame somebody that you were near. How does the congresswoman know how or when was got infected? All her statement does is give my friend Randy more reason not to wear one.

Randy, If you go out in public, think about wearing a mask. It's easy, it dosen't hurt, it's only for a lil while and might even help. You do not want to get that bug, honest.

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I am working in Pine Bluff Arkansas this week, when I am out of town I have a mask on me and I do where it. There is so much about this virus that is BS it is all over the board, so yes I do play it safe. My company requires it, but then again there were six if us out for dinner tonight, wore our mask to get seated, but everyone took it off once seated, 2 people from houston, one from Lafayette La, one from Denver, in the back of your head you think about it, but still I am not going to stay in the basement.
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Old 01-10-2021, 12:07 PM   #9
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They were working on making the entire country Right to Work. Trump had ask for a NATIONAL Right to Work bill, which is a death spiral for any type of labor organizations

What has Biden done? Watch the video, and keep in mind he's been on the side of labor his entire career. As far as I'm concerned, this is 100 percent better than the direction the last guy was pulling us.
Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?
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Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?
Good question Billy, Jeff is a union boss.

I moved into the engineering and commissioning side of the industries, not represented by the union. I have fired a lot of people that think just because they have that card in there pocket they are untouchable, and by firing them I was able to keep good hard working members employed..



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