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Old 02-10-2020, 12:12 PM   #1
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Needs about 410 to run a second under in I/SA.
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Old 02-10-2020, 01:12 PM   #2
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Jim get a hold of Tony Hernandez tony 5022 . Tony raced his corvette @ 250, 300, 365 hp. Jim Lewis would know hp.
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Needs about 410 to run a second under in I/SA.
Ok

So we know a 294 CUIN 283 4 jet can make 373 STP HP. 1.27 HP per inch.

Now looking at the 300 HP 327 combination @ 340 CUIN. Bigger bore, more compression, 1.940 intake valve, more cross section in the intake port.
It makes sense to me this engine should be able to make 1.27 HP per inch if not more. 1.27 X 340 = 432 HP. NHRA 365 HP 327 makes 470 HP.

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Old 02-10-2020, 09:32 PM   #4
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Ok

So we know a 294 CUIN 283 4 jet can make 380 STP HP. 1.292 HP per inch.

Now looking at the 300 HP 327 combination @ 340 CUIN. Bigger bore, more compression, 1.940 intake valve, more cross section in the intake port.
It makes sense to me this engine should be able to make 1.292 HP per inch if not more. 1.292 X 340 = 439.2 HP. NHRA 365 HP 327 makes 470 HP.
Sounds good..if you compare it to the best 283 that ever was.
327 /365 has too much difference to base a comparison off of .
http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...MAKE=Chevrolet

I don't know how far under you want to go , Jim, but I'm standing by my observation, using my formula that has been pretty accurate over the years.
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Old 02-11-2020, 07:55 PM   #5
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Mark,
Please speak more about your formula.
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Sounds good..if you compare it to the best 283 that ever was.
327 /365 has too much difference to base a comparison off of .
http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...MAKE=Chevrolet

I don't know how far under you want to go , Jim, but I'm standing by my observation, using my formula that has been pretty accurate over the years.
Mark we would like too run .050 under in race mode . 6/7 under in go faster.the 327 275 i worker on struggled to make 400. this was with old school, but have not ran a AFB carb. so not sure .

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Mark we would like too run .050 under in race mode . 6/7 under in go faster.the 327 275 i worker on struggled to make 400. this was with old school, but have not ran a AFB carb. so not sure .
Jim, the trick is getting a cam into those things and max compression. My one and only attempt didn't do so well.
Anyway , the AFB deal should fall between the 4 GC and the Q-jet. We know that much .
Other than that, I'd have to look at one closely, with the newer rules, and I just haven't.
As mentioned , Jim Lewis would know the deal on them. I don't bother people at work, that do this stuff for a living, though. I haven't seen the ol' boy at the races in a while.
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Jim, we know what good 327-275's make so what we're looking at is....

-the difference between a good AFB and a good QJet
-what (if any) difference there is in the cam (.399/.399 on the 300 & .390/.410 on the 275)
-what (if any) difference there is in a good AFB intake compared to a good Qjet intake

The 327/300 @ 265 isn't horrible. But the 327/250 is the same engine (except for the 4G) and intake and it's @ 245. I don't see the AFB covering the 20 hp difference, even with the intake being a bit better on the AFB.....given the current state of Stocker intake technology.

But .60-.70 under should be no problem for a decent 327/300, though. -Al
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Jim, we know what good 327-275's make so what we're looking at is....

-the difference between a good AFB and a good QJet
-what (if any) difference there is in the cam (.399/.399 on the 300 & .390/.410 on the 275)
-what (if any) difference there is in a good AFB intake compared to a good Qjet intake

The 327/300 @ 265 isn't horrible. But the 327/250 is the same engine (except for the 4G) and intake and it's @ 245. I don't see the AFB covering the 20 hp difference, even with the intake being a bit better on the AFB.....given the current state of Stocker intake technology.

But .60-.70 under should be no problem for a decent 327/300, though. -Al
Al, it's 260 in a Chevelle with iron heads ..That's 60 pounds lighter in !/SA..Something anyway.
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Ok

So we know a 294 CUIN 283 4 jet can make 380 STP HP. 1.292 HP per inch.

Now looking at the 300 HP 327 combination @ 340 CUIN. Bigger bore, more compression, 1.940 intake valve, more cross section in the intake port.
It makes sense to me this engine should be able to make 1.292 HP per inch if not more. 1.292 X 340 = 439.2 HP. NHRA 365 HP 327 makes 470 HP.
Wow ! Wonder how much the 283 would make with the correct intake manifold and not the BOGUS one ?? I need one of these FRIENDLY Dynos so I can feel better about my lil 305..... CHEERS. .....!!!!!!
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