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Old 11-15-2019, 01:48 AM   #1
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Allow crank triggers.
Allow more non -Stock electronics?

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Get rid of E-shift.
Dis-allow non- Stock electronics?
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:24 AM   #2
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Allow the LT1 engines to toss that Opti Junk in the garbage where it belongs and either do CNP or a "normal" distributor. They are already allowed a crank trigger and aftermarket ECM's.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:44 AM   #3
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Though I'm generally against anything turning a Stocker into a SS'er I would like to see Crank triggers allowed, especially now when more and more Cars/engines that have modern fuel/spark systems find the way into the mix of older cars it would be nice to at least be able to eliminate the irregular timing you often get with more normal setups going through timing chains(of more and more questionable quality) dist.gears etc.
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:31 PM   #4
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Though I'm generally against anything turning a Stocker into a SS'er I would like to see Crank triggers allowed, especially now when more and more Cars/engines that have modern fuel/spark systems find the way into the mix of older cars it would be nice to at least be able to eliminate the irregular timing you often get with more normal setups going through timing chains(of more and more questionable quality) dist.gears etc.
Mr Clean, You 're probably right. You can't win a thing with that irregular timing.

Oh, wait. Here's three different 305, 4bbl. Malibu wagons that won Divisionals this year, with irregular timing..How do you suppose that happened?
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Without the crank trigger you can't get a clean signal to the computer. I have spent lots of time and money trying to shield wires, have clean grounds, Magnecor plug wires, etc. but that stuff doesn't work. My tach signal is awful on the data logger and RPM jumps all around especially near finish line. Can't take advantage of my NHRA Accepted EFI system that does almost everything based on RPM. How will I ever get my E-shift to be accurate with this messy tach signal? I know I should have built a different combo silly me.

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Mr Clean, You 're probably right. You can't win a thing with that irregular timing.

Oh, wait. Here's three different 305, 4bbl. Malibu wagons that won Divisionals this year, with irregular timing..How do you suppose that happened?
There's a late model GM in Division 1 that won 5 of them with regular timing, and great driving.

PS some rule changes I forgot: Fix the following stupid indexes
K/SA to 12.60, L/SA to 12.75, M/SA to 12.90 and so on..

oh yea, NHRA.TV on Thursdays should be a rule too!
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50 points for setting a record.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:10 PM   #7
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Without the crank trigger you can't get a clean signal to the computer. I have spent lots of time and money trying to shield wires, have clean grounds, Magnecor plug wires, etc. but that stuff doesn't work. My tach signal is awful on the data logger and RPM jumps all around especially near finish line. Can't take advantage of my NHRA Accepted EFI system that does almost everything based on RPM. How will I ever get my E-shift to be accurate with this messy tach signal? I know I should have built a different combo silly me.



There's a late model GM in Division 1 that won 5 of them with regular timing, and great driving.

PS some rule changes I forgot: Fix the following stupid indexes
K/SA to 12.60, L/SA to 12.75, M/SA to 12.90 and so on..

oh yea, NHRA.TV on Thursdays should be a rule too!
Bobby , You have an E-shift on a 302? See post # 59 on the Enforcement thread.


Totally agree on the index change.
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[QUOTE=Mark Yacavone;601930]Bobby , You have an E-shift on a 302? See post # 59 on the Enforcement thread.

No I’m joking I think it’s dumb and I don’t use it. I use B&M hammer and miss shifts perfectly fine on my own lol.
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Magnecor plug wires, etc. but that stuff doesn't work. My tach signal is awful on the data logger and RPM jumps all around especially near finish line.
I had a similar problem with my Racepak. I don't know about the Magnecor's but I put a new set of the MSD Super conducters on mine and the rpm trace cleaned right up.
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Just for the Record,I think pure Stock sucks!
But I wouldn't mind the rules to stay put from lets say 10-15 years ago just to keep us separated from SS.
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