Crate Motor Class

[PozQB14]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

My input is my thoughts and opinion. I'm a division 1 stock racer. So does that mean that If I want I can put a Chevy bracket engine in my Firebird and call it a crate engine and run Div 2 I can? Do they have engine parameters and specs? Will they be subject to heads up races?
I have no problem with them being included in S/SS races. But official NHRA races, thats pushing it some.
What is relevant input? If I'm for this than that's ok? Next lets let the purestock cars in next? I guess if they need cars have at it.

Right Super Street cars that go 150 miles an hr? That's entry level. Sounds like slower version of Super Gas.

You have proven my point. IHRA had very specific requirements for what you can run on a crate motor engine. We're all waiting to see the weight breaks and new indexes but each combo has it's own cam, piston ect...specs.
It's ok to have an opinion, but do some research before you diminish a type of engine that someone chooses to run. Being from D1 which is a great division with tons of fast impressive cars, you don't need to worry about what's going on in D2 if it doesn't suit your style. It takes a special kind of person to come on here and try to trash someone's choice of engine/car combination.

Originally Posted by PozQB14

You have proven my point. IHRA had very specific requirements for what you can run on a crate motor engine. We're all waiting to see the weight breaks and new indexes but each combo has it's own cam, piston ect...specs.
It's ok to have an opinion, but do some research before you diminish a type of engine that someone chooses to run. Being from D1 which is a great division with tons of fast impressive cars, you don't need to worry about what's going on in D2 if it doesn't suit your style. It takes a special kind of person to come on here and try to trash someone's choice of engine/car combination.

I just want to know why these are being allowed in NHRA? Is it the official position? Is this a backdoor way to try and get these cars accepted?
Where can I look up the specs for these? Will they be held to the same standard of tech the traditional stockers are? Will the NHRA tech be trained or informed to properly tech these?
I bashed no one, if you have a car that was built for a sanctioning body and class that is defunct I’d say you have some tough choices. But if this is happening so be it. So if I travel down to div 2 races at the end of the year, and I don’t want to get drug down the track by a 9 second Duster in D/SA, I can put a SBC in my 68 Firebird call it CM and I’m good? Just wondering

[Bpozzi]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

I just want to know why these are being allowed in NHRA? Is it the official position? Is this a backdoor way to try and get these cars accepted?
Where can I look up the specs for these? Will they be held to the same standard of tech the traditional stockers are? Will the NHRA tech be trained or informed to properly tech these?
I bashed no one, if you have a car that was built for a sanctioning body and class that is defunct I’d say you have some tough choices. But if this is happening so be it. So if I travel down to div 2 races at the end of the year, and I don’t want to get drug down the track by a 9 second Duster in D/SA, I can put a SBC in my 68 Firebird call it CM and I’m good? Just wondering

Are you being sarcastic or just ignorant? Have you done a shred of research as to what a legal crate motor engine is? NHRA made a decision to have open races and allow crate motor cars in. All of your above questions were answered by the division 2 director on facebook . Kudos to rich for thinking outside the box and giving these cars a place to run. Do you legitimately think crate motor engines are just drop shipped from jegs and put in the car? It’s building power within the guidelines of specific rules. And awesome your from division 1, is that supposed to mean something? This move by NHRA doesn’t affect you one bit, so why the criticism? If you want to drive down here and race with us, we welcome you, but do some research before you make blanket ignorant statements. And yes, their are heads up races in CM , have to pass fuel check, hit the scales and pass tech just as your wonderful legal stocker does. So enlighten me as to what’s the difference?

[Greg Hill]

Todd, it’s got to be a bracket motor deal. Their are no specs for crate motors at NHRA.

[Bpozzi]

http://www.ihra.com/competition/comp...t/category/211

As Division 2 director has said, they will go off of last years IHRA’s crate motor specs. So again, before you call it a “bracket motor deal”.... do 1 minute of research , and you can find the specs for these cars. It’s pretty plain and simple. If you don’t like the specs, don’t build a motor in CM and you won’t have to run heads up. If I run my AA/SA car vs a D/SA Firebird or a F/CM camaro..... it’s still a bracket race, correct?

Originally Posted by Bpozzi

http://www.ihra.com/competition/comp...t/category/211

As Division 2 director has said, they will go off of last years IHRA’s crate motor specs. So again, before you call it a “bracket motor deal”.... do 1 minute of research , and you can find the specs for these cars. It’s pretty plain and simple. If you don’t like the specs, don’t build a motor in CM and you won’t have to run heads up. If I run my AA/SA car vs a D/SA Firebird or a F/CM camaro..... it’s still a bracket race, correct?

Sounds good, thanks.

[Charley Downing]

I love how 5-6 guys have keep this thread alive for months now.

[Birch motor cars]

Originally Posted by Bpozzi

http://www.ihra.com/competition/comp...t/category/211

As Division 2 director has said, they will go off of last years IHRA’s crate motor specs. So again, before you call it a “bracket motor deal”.... do 1 minute of research , and you can find the specs for these cars. It’s pretty plain and simple. If you don’t like the specs, don’t build a motor in CM and you won’t have to run heads up. If I run my AA/SA car vs a D/SA Firebird or a F/CM camaro..... it’s still a bracket race, correct?

Yes it is, and I really cant figure out why everyone is scared of the crate motor cars. Its really pathetic to sit here and listen to all of the bickering.

I understand the crate motor deal. Spec heads, intake, carb, and short block. All parts you can buy over the counter. I guess there is a cam spec as well. Can you buy these engine completely from GM, Ford and Mopar?
I guess no difference other then they were IHRA class cars only.

My point is I’m an NHRA drag racer that competes in stock. After I was called irrelevant I thought I had a right to an opinion and stated why. BTW I don’t follow the Div2 Facebook page so I didn’t see the memo. Congratulations on getting someone to work with your cars. If it gets accepted, I’ll build one and throw my Pontiac stuff in the garbage. I can’t get any parts or help with it anyway. What my head castings cost I could buy every part for a crate. Then plenty of money left over to make it fast.

Originally Posted by Bpozzi

Are you being sarcastic or just ignorant? Have you done a shred of research as to what a legal crate motor engine is? NHRA made a decision to have open races and allow crate motor cars in. All of your above questions were answered by the division 2 director on facebook . Kudos to rich for thinking outside the box and giving these cars a place to run. Do you legitimately think crate motor engines are just drop shipped from jegs and put in the car? It’s building power within the guidelines of specific rules. And awesome your from division 1, is that supposed to mean something? This move by NHRA doesn’t affect you one bit, so why the criticism? If you want to drive down here and race with us, we welcome you, but do some research before you make blanket ignorant statements. And yes, their are heads up races in CM , have to pass fuel check, hit the scales and pass tech just as your wonderful legal stocker does. So enlighten me as to what’s the difference?