.370 back to .400 Pro Tree

[NHRA1926]

Hey Maverick, I run super Street, and I don't have a delay box, or a throttle stop, or electric operated shifter on my car because I refuse to be a monkey and let the electronics do the racing for me. I like the human element to be involved in my racing. I use a throttle limiter on the back of the carb linkage to try and run the number, so I'm under power all the way down the track. The only electronic device I have is a trans brake to be able to react to the tree. Call it old school, but at least I'M controlling my car, not the electronics. No offense meant towards the other racers, just my way of still reacting to the tree, manually shifting the car, and playing the finish line game. I pride myself on still running a fully suspended "Street Car" inspected, registered and insured by the way, in Super Street. Those of us using this type of set up, could really use the real.500 tree as we have a hard time hitting the. 470 tree. Again, those of you using a box can just push some numbers to slow down your reaction. We are limited on ways to speed the cars reaction to the .470 tree. If the rule book states .500 tree, then it should be a .500 tree, period! Again just my thoughts, take for what it's worth. Still love racing at the divisional, and limited national events, and will continue to do so as long as it's still fun.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by NHRA1926

Hey Maverick, I run super Street, and I don't have a delay box, or a throttle stop, or electric operated shifter on my car because I refuse to be a monkey and let the electronics do the racing for me. I like the human element to be involved in my racing. I use a throttle limiter on the back of the carb linkage to try and run the number, so I'm under power all the way down the track. The only electronic device I have is a trans brake to be able to react to the tree. Call it old school, but at least I'M controlling my car, not the electronics. No offense meant towards the other racers, just my way of still reacting to the tree, manually shifting the car, and playing the finish line game. I pride myself on still running a fully suspended "Street Car" inspected, registered and insured by the way, in Super Street. Those of us using this type of set up, could really use the real.500 tree as we have a hard time hitting the. 470 tree. Again, those of you using a box can just push some numbers to slow down your reaction. We are limited on ways to speed the cars reaction to the .470 tree. If the rule book states .500 tree, then it should be a .500 tree, period! Again just my thoughts, take for what it's worth. Still love racing at the divisional, and limited national events, and will continue to do so as long as it's still fun.

You nailed it.

[Maverick]

Just so you know, my car does not have a delay box, or a throttle stop/ controller. I do have a auto shifter. My car does have three pedals, and it is not a high mph car. I struggle with the tree at times, but I can usually point to the track I am at. Some tracks I have a had time getting a .02, and other tracks I have a hard time not going red. Year after year it is consistent, that I have the same rt at the same tracks. They change the rules or timing system, and it is not common knowledge. Probably because it would cause confusion, in trying to explain why. I had more questions this year with division director and division tech guy, and also with the national tech guy, asking questions and looking for answers. The things I did not know about were, Stage Loc, first round bye selection, and burn downs at the starting line. There were other questions, about grading points. I just have questions as why, . When they had incandescent lights, it was a little harder to get a light. I guess when they went to led lights, everyone thought you seen them faster. Just look at the cars, at the top of the points, they are awesome. I try to admire them, and understand what they are doing. Good luck to you

[Regan Wilson]

Gary posted this in multiple forums. I responded on YB with my scenario. Back when they changed the lights at the National events we still had a true .500 at the Divisional level. Some of us go race a National and cant hit the tree. Then they changed it across the board without telling us. I spoke multiple times with an SRAC member but never got a clear answer. I got tired of bumping in to cut a light in 2011 and took a break. I spent 6 grand building a new front suspension and now I can leave soft with numbers in the box.

Like someone said NHRA should follow their own rules.

Will this change bring back old racers ? Who knows ?

Would it open it up for new racers ? Maybe.

Here's a little food for thought. This is happening at the same time as the dissolve of IHRA .90 classes.They can come race NHRA without rebuilding their whole car to do so.

[Regan Wilson]

Also I think they should put it out there for a vote amongst the racers. I voted to lower the indexes when they did that. It was a landslide to keep it .90. Just my 2 cents guys

[Wild Wild West]

"Here's a little food for thought. This is happening at the same time as the dissolve of IHRA .90 classes.They can come race NHRA without rebuilding their whole car to do so."

This is not a completely true statement. There are/were a lot of IHRA Super Rod (9.90/6.40) cars that would/will not pass a chassis certification for one reason or another. Now I am not saying that all those cars that won't pass are not safe, they just do not meet the current requirements to be certified. Case in point is my own car, it was built back in the 1980's and the mild steel tubing thickness will not ultrasound to meet today's standards. So I would have to spend thousands to upgrade my chassis to pass certification in NHRA. As a reminder, the IHRA didn't require a chassis to be certified unless the vehicle was faster than 6.00 in the 1/8th mile. Hence Super Rod cars (6.40 index) did not have to have a certified chassis.

[Regan Wilson]

I was talking about the ability to cut a light. Not about the safety of the cars. It's not run what ya brung.