Crate Motor Class

[Dan Fahey]

zzzzzzzzzzzz

[Ed Wright]

The number one reason I heard from guys not running IHRA was much reduced already lower purses for low car counts, which they always had. They had so few contingencies, most were for things most don't use. Winning, or just going rounds, did not pay what everyone was used to. Had to play musical decals. It was still 1/4 mile IHRA races around here when I quit going. I tried to run both a few years ago. Officials were very friendly, tech was pretty lax. Small rubber checks did it for me.

And, other than some bracket racers, few guys like 1/8th mile racing.

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

The evolution and cost of Stock Eliminator has gone nuts!
Nobody bashed Bill Nees when he built his Dime Racers.
Yet racers are bashing others because they find more sensible ways to race.

Billy found cars that are in the system to my knowledge he never once asked NHRA to add cars or classes so he could build what he wanted.

Apples and oranges to what you want done.

[Sean Marconette]

Everyone wants to push the easy button and make statements about OEM parts availability to justify why they made a decision to build a combination. Parts are out there, I don't care what combination you run. It takes a little more effort to find them, and they may not be local, and they may have a price tag too. That's where some of the abrasive comments come from, racers that made the effort to find the parts, and others that made a decision to go an easier path. Now that path has put them in a financial burden to compete within another organization. There is no doubt that it would be frustrating.

We build our cars to compete within the rules for the organization and tracks that are local to each of us. In my area the closest IHRA track is over 7 hrs away, you're not going to see me there to support it. IHRA tracks are not as popular in a general geographic area as some think. Bottom line, the amount of racers within a specific class to support a given track and/or organization will impact sustainability.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by novassdude

Billy found cars that are in the system to my knowledge he never once asked NHRA to add cars or classes so he could build what he wanted.

Apples and oranges to what you want done.

COME ON that is not relevant !

Stock/Super Stock made so many changes over the years because the racers wanted them.

Todays Stockers are a whole lot quicker than SS was on the 80's.
SS'er are more like yesterdays Modified Production

Fuel Injected Classes were added because FI became a new issue.

Factory Stock cars were added !!
They are so quick they could compete with yesterdays ProStockers.

Classes were added because of a need !

As for easy button everyone looks for it!
That is how S/SS and Class Racing morphed over the decades.

D

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

COME ON that is not relevant !

Stock/Super Stock made so many changes over the years because the racers wanted them.

Todays Stockers are a whole lot quicker than SS was on the 80's.
SS'er are more like yesterdays Modified Production

Fuel Injected Classes were added because FI became a new issue.

Factory Stock cars were added !!
They are so quick they could compete with yesterdays ProStockers.

Classes were added because of a need !

As for easy button everyone looks for it!
That is how S/SS and Class Racing morphed over the decades.

D

NHRA has made changes to the stock an super stock classes over the years. Most of the changes have been either safety related or changes NHRA made to make it easier for the tech people to check the cars and engines and keep them compliant. There have also been some rule changes to help the older cars with newer parts that have been getting very hard to find. They are also allowing some better parts in the engines to help with reliability which helps with safety and oil down delays an saves the racers money in the long run.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Nobody bashed Bill Nees when he built his Dime Racers.

Dan, why would anybody want to bash me for being sensible enough to build a car that can run IHRA (at one time), NHRA and Brackets?
I'll admit to being cheap AND crazy but I'm NOT stupid.

[Ed Wright]

Being bright enough to build a car that can run with either association is no reason to bash anybody.

Expecting a large racing association to add unneeded classes just for a small group is something else. Give it up.

[Bob Bender]

Hey Dan, NHRA is not going to add more classes when they can't control what they have. Build that old stocker you have.
P.S. Leave Billy alone.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Dan, why would anybody want to bash me for being sensible enough to build a car that can run IHRA (at one time), NHRA and Brackets?
I'll admit to being cheap AND crazy but I'm NOT stupid.

Billy;
Didn’t say anyone bashed you!
Just the opposite..in fact you just described me too :
You are sweet gentle person who would never offend even a mouse!

Bob Bender...!
I hope Billy Nees Nickel Stocker kicks every $100,000 FS Stocker out there!
He has an advantage because his car is so slow it’s shawdow falls asleeps at the line!
Then latches on the faster car to catch up!

From an earlier Challenge..I bet Billy or you Bob or any other Stocker Racer $10 they cannot beat my Pure Stocker!

Pure Stock Still Rules!
Just like Billy Nees cars.....it is affordable!

Now where was that other conversation on CR where Stock Racers were complaining that they do not like running Bracket Racing because of their sensitive engines?

D