Original hemi dart information

[Liteweight]

Originally Posted by hemitime

. Interesting as it has car craft all stars decal on back window , ex Landy car ?

We have a winner!!!!! It is an ex Landy factory Hem,i Dart, BUT, it is not the stick car as Charlie pictured below on the haul It is the automatic car.
Landy won the 1968 Car Craft All Star award and the decals were proudly displayed on the windows of his race cars.
Along with the rear window decal, there's are some other stuff that puts a signature to its first days.
As mentioned a 69 tail panel along with 69 tailites were installed to appease Chrysler to stay updated to current model year. But you notice the auto car has round side markers, while the stick car has no side markers. Not sure why the 68 stick car had its markers filled in without the 69's installed, or why the auto car was converted to a 69 but the 68 markers remained.
You will also note the wheel well trim on all corners. Dick first put trim on these cars because when he went to install slicks on one of them, the rough wheel well surgery done by Hurst cut the back of his hand.

It is also still wearing its Cragars, WITH the signature DLI spinners.

Also check out the b&M decals on side glass

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[Charlie A]

I was looking at the Pennzoil stickers on the rear quarter windows!
lol

[Charlie A]

We will probably never find all of them. This one is still MIA:

[Liteweight]

Just playing with my new imgbb site.

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[Liteweight]

Some more playin"

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[Tom Broome]

Originally Posted by Liteweight

You will also note the wheel well trim on all corners. Dick first put trim on these cars because when he went to install slicks on one of them, the rough wheel well surgery done by Hurst cut the back of his hand.

If I may, I'll add a little more about the wheelwell trim on the Landy cars.
I was in the teardown barn at Indy sometime in the later 70's tearing down a SS/AA car that I maintained. We did not win class, but had qualified for the eliminator, earning a teardown. The SS/AA winner and runner up arrived, one of them was Max Hurley. There was a significant commotion around Max's car even before they started getting the engine apart. Very shortly a Chrysler representative shows up at our car with a West Coast tech man in tow. Tech man is told to ask me what the wheelbase is on a SS Dart. He does, and I answer 111 inches. Tech man argues with me about that, says the factory super stockers were 108 like the Barracudas. He knows that because back in 1968 Dick Landy told him so, and all of Landy's Darts were 108. My reply was Max had owned his car all of these years and pretty much every other Dart was 111 inches why did you let Landy decide your specs.
They wanted to throw Max out for too long wheelbase.
It was common knowledge at the time that the rear wheelwell trim on Dick Landy's Darts (and other Landy cars also) were to cover his modified wheelbase.
The line about cut hands, and keeping the cars looking sharp for sponsors was just the smokescreen.

[Charlie A]

Originally Posted by Tom Broome

If I may, I'll add a little more about the wheelwell trim on the Landy cars.
I was in the teardown barn at Indy sometime in the later 70's tearing down a SS/AA car that I maintained. We did not win class, but had qualified for the eliminator, earning a teardown. The SS/AA winner and runner up arrived, one of them was Max Hurley. There was a significant commotion around Max's car even before they started getting the engine apart. Very shortly a Chrysler representative shows up at our car with a West Coast tech man in tow. Tech man is told to ask me what the wheelbase is on a SS Dart. He does, and I answer 111 inches. Tech man argues with me about that, says the factory super stockers were 108 like the Barracudas. He knows that because back in 1968 Dick Landy told him so, and all of Landy's Darts were 108. My reply was Max had owned his car all of these years and pretty much every other Dart was 111 inches why did you let Landy decide your specs.
They wanted to throw Max out for too long wheelbase.
It was common knowledge at the time that the rear wheelwell trim on Dick Landy's Darts (and other Landy cars also) were to cover his modified wheelbase.
The line about cut hands, and keeping the cars looking sharp for sponsors was just the smokescreen.

Somebody put a tape measure on one of Landys old Darts ! If true.... That's some pretty good stuff right there! Lol

[SSSwede]

So... moving the rear axle forward 3" will put this tire pretty much flush to the front lower wheel well lip. Add to that another 1" or so (+clearance), for the taller slicks used. This 7,75X15 tire (Jim Schild´s SS Guide) is some 27" (my remark) tall.
And no modification done to the inner lower wheel well?
Go figure...

[Tom Broome]

Originally Posted by SSSwede

So... moving the rear axle forward 3" will put this tire pretty much flush to the front lower wheel well lip. Add to that another 1" or so (+clearance), for the taller slicks used. This 7,75X15 tire (Jim Schild´s SS Guide) is some 27" (my remark) tall.
And no modification done to the inner lower wheel well?
Go figure...

I agree, it seems extreme. I'm only relating the conversation I was involved in. The Tech Dept. keyed off on the longer than expected wheelbase because a few weeks earlier they caught Dave Wren's SS/D Barracuda with some kind of sliding wheelbase system. The system was caught because the wheelbase (when checked) was longer than stock, yet the tires clearly rubbed the front of the (distant) wheel openings.
Allow me to relay another story of the creativity of those times.
In the early 70's I went with another friend to pick up his SS Dart at the paint shop, during the paint process they naturally removed all of the glass and trim, breaking the windshield. Everyone thought that would not be an issue, the door glasses were the important pieces. When they went to install a new windshield the bare glass, without the gasket, overlapped the windshield pillars. The body shop was adamant that they wouldn't have broken the original windshield if it had not been single ply. It was only the outer layer of a laminated windshield, cut and polished to fit the opening.
I filed that info away, and I will swear that I never used that one again. Who would dare not run safety glass in a race car.
I do not know where the modifications to that car were done, or who did it. He brought that SS Dart, and one other, with him when he moved back East from California.

[Terry Witzel]