question for the 90 guys and gals

CBS · 11-02-2007, 06:18 PM

I really don't think we should increase the cost any more than we have to....lowering the indexes would cause some of the low buck guys to have to drop down a class...I think we should just leave it alone....

and worry about how to make nationals 3 day events....so we all can go to them...without unlimited vacation....

CBS...

Mackie Family Racing · 11-02-2007, 07:14 PM

now that I finally know how to operate the delay box, weather station and throttle stop, let's not go throw them all away...! I'd be happy if there was a consistent approach to the Pro tree (.400 vs .370 at all the Div I races...), and even happier if they went back to .400...

all joking aside -- I do agree on the 3-day national events. The 4-day schedule absolutely sucks anyway; how crazy is it to have three rounds of Sportsman eliminations completed on Friday morning before the Pros have taken their first time shot?? Then you call your wife and she asks you why you're not coming home for the weekend... after taking three days of vacation to get a good parking spot...

srm

Mark Schmidt · 11-02-2007, 07:38 PM

Gotta go with CBS on this one. Change would be pretty expensive for many. We would love to go to more national events but taking a month of vacation for racing doesn't leave much left for anything else. Since when are we racing for the fans? Does anyone remember PS Truck? Fast gear jammers and everyone went for the hot dog stand. Leave all's well and shorten the national events.

chebby2 · 11-02-2007, 08:19 PM

I knew CBS was smarter than he looks. (kidding rock)His thoughts are right. I'm actually thinking of by passing Indy after BGreen next year. Just too much dead time although it is everyones dream to win, it's just a wasted week anymore.

Joe Pinkston · 11-02-2007, 08:59 PM

I don't believe changing the indexes for the .90 classes will create any more interest or understanding for the "casual" race fan. The movie will still be the same, just the speed that the film is rolled through will have increased. Fact is, about the only people that watch .90 classes, stock, super stock and most cases even Comp with an educated interest in how these races are won or lost are probably friends and family of a racer in these classes and other racers. Next, try to explain to the "casual" John Force, etc. etc. fan how you tapped the brakes and let your opponemt take the finish line and had the win light come on in your lane. That's an idea they just can't comprehend.

Sportsman classes as a whole have a limited audience and it will always be that way.

GaryGoFast · 11-02-2007, 10:11 PM

and worry about how to make nationals 3 day events....so we all can go to them...without unlimited vacation....

CBS...

As usual Rock, you hit the nail right on the head, instead of this getting more cost effective, it seems to be going the other way.
If NHRA wants to "Enhance the Sportsmans experience", they should try to figure out ways to help us cut some cost without affecting their bottom line, just aint gonna happen tho.

Gary

CBS · 11-03-2007, 08:24 AM

Lets talk this one up....I think we need to come up with solutions..They already do it at some of the races now...Indy is probably not an option...or maybe vegas....but certainly many of the others are....

Our 2nd favorite magazine DRA is hosting a sit down at the PRI show...so any one that puts their 2 cents in....should touch on this subject....I guess we need to find out why it isn't done as much as possible now....so we can suggest a solution....

This is really the number 1 issue I have...

Don't worry Carl....it was my partners idea...I'm not really smarter than I look

CBS

wsmracing · 11-04-2007, 07:31 PM

I Think We Should Run Flat Out , In Reverse, With High Gear Only......... But I'm Sure Some One Would Build Something Bigger. & Faster To Screw Up That Class Up To............................its Not The The Index.....its Everyone That Overbuilds For The Index.....................................but Then Again, When I Started ....it Was Without A Delay Box And Using A Nut & Bolt......&...... Look Where We're At Now..............but Thats Just My Opinion....and You Know What They Say About Opinions.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wsm

SG1809 · 11-04-2007, 09:46 AM

I agree also that changing the Index time will create problems for some, budget wise and the way they have their car set up. As far as fans especially in the Division Races, the spectator count is almost non-exsistant. People go to the Nationals to see the big guys. Maybe if the announcers at the Nationals took the time to explain what we do in a little more detail more people may have of an interest. Also bring back the .400 tree at the Divisionals.

Bryan Gillespie · 11-04-2007, 11:04 AM

I agree,lower the index's
s/c 8.00
s/g 9.00
s/st 10.00
Most s/c can run7.90or faster!
most s/g can run in the 8's even some s/st HAHA
and 10.00 is the cut for all the rules pants,neck coller,gloves etc.
also it may attract new racer's that can race without buying all the stop stuff.
Move up to the present date and lets go fast!

11-02-2007, 06:18 PM	#1
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals I really don't think we should increase the cost any more than we have to....lowering the indexes would cause some of the low buck guys to have to drop down a class...I think we should just leave it alone.... and worry about how to make nationals 3 day events....so we all can go to them...without unlimited vacation.... CBS...

11-02-2007, 07:14 PM	#2
Mackie Family Racing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 179 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals now that I finally know how to operate the delay box, weather station and throttle stop, let's not go throw them all away...! I'd be happy if there was a consistent approach to the Pro tree (.400 vs .370 at all the Div I races...), and even happier if they went back to .400... all joking aside -- I do agree on the 3-day national events. The 4-day schedule absolutely sucks anyway; how crazy is it to have three rounds of Sportsman eliminations completed on Friday morning before the Pros have taken their first time shot?? Then you call your wife and she asks you why you're not coming home for the weekend... after taking three days of vacation to get a good parking spot... srm

11-02-2007, 07:38 PM	#3
Mark Schmidt Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals Gotta go with CBS on this one. Change would be pretty expensive for many. We would love to go to more national events but taking a month of vacation for racing doesn't leave much left for anything else. Since when are we racing for the fans? Does anyone remember PS Truck? Fast gear jammers and everyone went for the hot dog stand. Leave all's well and shorten the national events. __________________ MDS Motorsports

11-02-2007, 08:19 PM	#4
chebby2 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 256 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals I knew CBS was smarter than he looks. (kidding rock)His thoughts are right. I'm actually thinking of by passing Indy after BGreen next year. Just too much dead time although it is everyones dream to win, it's just a wasted week anymore.

11-02-2007, 08:59 PM	#5
Joe Pinkston Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Williston, Fl. Posts: 352 Likes: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals I don't believe changing the indexes for the .90 classes will create any more interest or understanding for the "casual" race fan. The movie will still be the same, just the speed that the film is rolled through will have increased. Fact is, about the only people that watch .90 classes, stock, super stock and most cases even Comp with an educated interest in how these races are won or lost are probably friends and family of a racer in these classes and other racers. Next, try to explain to the "casual" John Force, etc. etc. fan how you tapped the brakes and let your opponemt take the finish line and had the win light come on in your lane. That's an idea they just can't comprehend. Sportsman classes as a whole have a limited audience and it will always be that way. __________________ Joe Pinkston 2155 S/ST

11-02-2007, 10:11 PM	#6
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals and worry about how to make nationals 3 day events....so we all can go to them...without unlimited vacation.... CBS... As usual Rock, you hit the nail right on the head, instead of this getting more cost effective, it seems to be going the other way. If NHRA wants to "Enhance the Sportsmans experience", they should try to figure out ways to help us cut some cost without affecting their bottom line, just aint gonna happen tho. Gary

11-03-2007, 08:24 AM	#7
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals Lets talk this one up....I think we need to come up with solutions..They already do it at some of the races now...Indy is probably not an option...or maybe vegas....but certainly many of the others are.... Our 2nd favorite magazine DRA is hosting a sit down at the PRI show...so any one that puts their 2 cents in....should touch on this subject....I guess we need to find out why it isn't done as much as possible now....so we can suggest a solution.... This is really the number 1 issue I have... Don't worry Carl....it was my partners idea...I'm not really smarter than I look CBS

11-04-2007, 07:31 PM	#8
wsmracing Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals I Think We Should Run Flat Out , In Reverse, With High Gear Only......... But I'm Sure Some One Would Build Something Bigger. & Faster To Screw Up That Class Up To............................its Not The The Index.....its Everyone That Overbuilds For The Index.....................................but Then Again, When I Started ....it Was Without A Delay Box And Using A Nut & Bolt......&...... Look Where We're At Now..............but Thats Just My Opinion....and You Know What They Say About Opinions.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wsm

11-04-2007, 09:46 AM	#9
SG1809 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monroeville, NJ Posts: 119 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals I agree also that changing the Index time will create problems for some, budget wise and the way they have their car set up. As far as fans especially in the Division Races, the spectator count is almost non-exsistant. People go to the Nationals to see the big guys. Maybe if the announcers at the Nationals took the time to explain what we do in a little more detail more people may have of an interest. Also bring back the .400 tree at the Divisionals.

11-04-2007, 11:04 AM	#10
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: question for the 90 guys and gals I agree,lower the index's s/c 8.00 s/g 9.00 s/st 10.00 Most s/c can run7.90or faster! most s/g can run in the 8's even some s/st HAHA and 10.00 is the cut for all the rules pants,neck coller,gloves etc. also it may attract new racer's that can race without buying all the stop stuff. Move up to the present date and lets go fast!

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