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Old 10-24-2014, 01:11 PM   #1
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Default Re: Fox and SN95 Mustang rear control arms

States clearly in the rulebook that cars with rear coil springs may relocate the upper control arms at the rear-end attachment point Mark.

The one pictured above mine might not fly...it appears to have some extra bars requiring another attachment point.

I intend to use these along with the Southside Machine lift bars hoping to get a favorable IC.
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Default Re: Fox and SN95 Mustang rear control arms

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States clearly in the rulebook that cars with rear coil springs may relocate the upper control arms at the rear-end attachment point Mark.

The one pictured above mine might not fly...it appears to have some extra bars requiring another attachment point.

I intend to use these along with the Southside Machine lift bars hoping to get a favorable IC.
Now that would be interesting, since both of those products change the instant center by themselves.
Keep us posted.
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: Fox and SN95 Mustang rear control arms

I use Team Z rear arms on my stuff.
I used it on a NMRA Factory Stock car and went low 1.4's with a stick and Drag radials.
We have is now on our NMRA Coyote Stock car and have gone low 1.3's.
Dave Zimmermans stuff works and he is a wealth on knowledge when setting it up.

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Now that would be interesting, since both of those products change the instant center by themselves.
Keep us posted.
Yeah, I kept looking at those lowers and it appeared to me a better possible angle vs all the rest. Only downside I see is they are likely heavier pieces than any other...weight in the right spot anyway.

Edit: I said Southside Machine, but these are actually UMI, a copy of the same. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360192700262?item=360192700262&viewitem=&sspagenam e=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr Guessing those plates on the sides are for an optional sway bar mount?
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:41 PM   #5
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Default Re: Fox and SN95 Mustang rear control arms

None of those shown have any adjustment options from what I can see, like a 4 link, other than the UCA's?
I would recommend making sure the bolts in the LCA's have no slop with the new arms. I replaced my stock bolts, as the bolts are metric and the LCA bushing was 1/2".

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Default Re: Fox and SN95 Mustang rear control arms

Yes, I realize the rear upper point can be raised or lowered.
Moser housings are actually cast with a taller ear there (GM anyway)

The Weibe system on the GM cars was "legal" for years..until someone from tech decided to take a close look ...Then it was no longer legal . The bars didn't change one bit.
I'd be careful about buying something that may be tech legal for street tire or 8.5 ?
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Default Re: Fox and SN95 Mustang rear control arms

[QUOTE=Sean Marconette;450818]None of those shown have any adjustment options from what I can see, like a 4 link, other than the UCA's?
I would recommend making sure the bolts in the LCA's have no slop with the new arms. I replaced my stock bolts, as the bolts are metric and the LCA bushing was 1/2".

Actually, if you look close there are 3 adjustment holes to choose from.. In the photo, its bolted thru the center position. Additionally, the kit comes with another set of adjustment plates in split positions so you do have the choice of 6 upper control arm positions.....

Quote "The one pictured above mine might not fly...it appears to have some extra bars requiring another attachment point."

What you're seeing is the optional diagonal locator trac bar which doesn't use any additional attach points. I ordered this with the kit in the event this is ever used in Superstock with adjustable LCA's w/ heim joints..
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Actually, if you look close there are 3 adjustment holes to choose from.. In the photo, its bolted thru the center position. Additionally, the kit comes with another set of adjustment plates in split positions so you do have the choice of 6 upper control arm positions.....
That's the ticket! The setup I have does not have all of those brackets, and has the multi-position holes.

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Default Re: Fox and SN95 Mustang rear control arms

dont over think it to much i run stock length lowers and upper adjustable uppers both Edelbrock with right rear air bag with 1.48~`1.50 60' in K/SA
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Yeah, I kept looking at those lowers and it appeared to me a better possible angle vs all the rest. Only downside I see is they are likely heavier pieces than any other...weight in the right spot anyway.

Edit: I said Southside Machine, but these are actually UMI, a copy of the same. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360192700262?item=360192700262&viewitem=&sspagenam e=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr Guessing those plates on the sides are for an optional sway bar mount?
I think Southside's patent expired and Lakewood and others are free to make those "Southside" style LCAs now. At least that was my understanding.
They are 100 % bolt on, but you have to drill a hole into the side of the LCA brackets that are welded on the factory rear end housing in order to place a 3/8 " bolt.

I have used original Southside brand LCAs for years on my T-Birds with the factory 87-88 Turbo Coupe sway bar.
The pic attached is my Gray Bird with Moroso drag springs in the front and Southside lowers with dual air bags.
I set the pinion down 3 deg. before I drilled that one hole I mentioned above. Then I used adjustable uppers to dial in the hook.
Unlike other cars that "squat" in the rear on launch, those bars help lift the rear and plant the tires.

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