The Factory Experimental Cars

[HEAD CASE]

Just glad these cars still exist no matter the fact or fiction about how they survived.

[Liteweight]

Originally Posted by Charlie A

There are probably more stories about these cars than there are cars themselves.




From this to the Funny car team of today, TASCA Ford has been around for a long time in the sport.

Hey is that a 65 Mopar scoop on a Ford facing the right direction?? LOL!!!

liteweight

[troublemaker427]

Originally Posted by Liteweight

Hey is that a 65 Mopar scoop on a Ford facing the right direction?? LOL!!!

liteweight

That isn't a scoop, more of a lump. This photo doesn't show it very clearly. That's Bob Tasca II in the passenger seat by the way. I showed him the photo and he remembered being in the car as a child.

[Mr belvedere]

Originally Posted by HEAD CASE

So what are you trying to say mr belvedere that mike guffey didnt find the car someone else found it and saved it from being scrapped so mike guffey could find it in a barn years later and take all the credit for saving it from the crusher that sounds a little far fetched to me sounds like theres a conspiracy maybe you can tell us who killed kennedy next.

Well the fact that that car was in a junkyard in middle belt in Detorit and was bought in 1974 by a guy named Mike Spinazla and another car was sitting in the same yard it was called firebrewed and he bought both cars ,so Spinazla saved them and he sold them to Rick Samul who held onto the car until 1985 and sold it, hey wasn't you and me who killed the Kennedy's

[troublemaker427]

Originally Posted by Mr belvedere

Hey troublemaker how many awb cars have you raced ,drove or built or your authority buddy Mike ?You see I have done all of those things so dose that make me a awb authority oh and by the way I am a personally friends with Lee Smith we talk weekly plusI have access to the original factory blueprints to the 426 hemi so what dose that make me ?

LOL......

[Steve1118]

Originally Posted by troublemaker427

No, I don't think so. The hardtop went from S&M to Buckeye & Vernon and that was it. I don't recognize this car.

Jody is right. This car raced at old Keystone Raceway, Pittsburgh Raceway Park; and it WAS NOT the S&M Paper Tiger; or Buckeye & Vernon. This was a home brew from the Pittsburgh area....I remember it well.

It was always my understanding that the "Paper Tiger" was destroyed in a crash sometime in the late sixties.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Steve1118

Jody is right. This car raced at old Keystone Raceway, Pittsburgh Raceway Park; and it WAS NOT the S&M Paper Tiger; or Buckeye & Vernon. This was a home brew from the Pittsburgh area....I remember it well.

It was always my understanding that the "Paper Tiger" was destroyed in a crash sometime in the late sixties.

This car was not from the Pittsburgh area, and wasn't a typical "home brew." This is/was the former Dave Koffel/Maloney Motors car. Richard Duecker (Chippewa Lake, Ohio) bought it and ran it for a number of years.

This car was destroyed in a starting line accident at Quaker City in the early 80's. Whoever owned the car at the time lost it in the burnout box and rear ended the former Hine Motors "Chargin Hemi" '69 Charger, which was then owned by Ben Bertok. It's my understanding that the Charger was repaired and put back on the street. The Belvedere on the other hand was quite fragile at this point and pretty much folded up on impact.

[Steve1118]

Steve, the car ran quite often at old Keystone Raceway, and several times at PID I saw it. It may well have been owned by Koffel, but I know that Deuker had made several modifications to it. He told me that he had built the car.

I was not aware of it's accident at Quaker.....but it doesn't surprise me. The car scared me to death.

[Mr belvedere]

I just heard that Dick Smith who drove the Firebrewed 65 dodge has died

[bob george]

Nobody is wrong here about the Richard Duecker car but history has a way of creating confusion.
A. The car was built by Dave Koffel using leftover parts from Chryslers A/FX program.
B. The chassis platform came from a wrecked A-990 from Owensboro Ky.That was wrecked in a towbar towing accident.It was monikered"Outlaw".It was a sedan and converted to a hardtop.
C.Koffel sold the car running to two guys from Cleveland Oh.,Ron Latine and Tom Haner.After unsuccessfully trying to race the car it was sold to Duecker from Chippawa Ohio.The car was in pieces.
D.Duecker had a few mishaps with the car and did a lot of work on it.He purchased some parts from me at the time.
E. I recall the long ago conversation with him and Steve Reasbeck at Keystone about the car and clearly understand Steve recolections.
F.I lost track of any further history of the car.Neither Dave or I recall the last wreck.
G.This information is as good as we can garner and comes from past recollections of some old feeble minds as mine,Steve, and Dave Koffel.Richard Duecker is still alive and Dave and myself have run into him in past years.He ran at Dragway 42 near his home.
H.Jim Kramer is reportedly to have told Dave Koffel that he aquired the T-Bars and K-Member years ago.
Enjoy the time travel of younger days and old minds and hope we helped give some worthwhile information.Based on our memories or lack of.
Respectfully,
Bob