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Let me get this straight. You don't understand what a 750, 850, and 950 cfm carb is? I very much doubt that. If we want all the current bells, and whistles, there's comp. Like I suggested, send him your version. I don't want, or need to have my way. It was just a idea. Speed doesn't sell super gas, or super comp. More people will watch the SS\K class run off at the class nationals then that stuff. Also, if you want to pull 20 plus inches of vac, you will have a star pump or an equal.
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Randy, didnt get out of town before had to go to work (short one employee).
Your ideas and mine are very similar. No Vac, No exotic stuff. The Heads up racing will be the attraction of the class And CHEAP. Thought an index can be assigned to this class so it can compete in SS at Points meets till it gets strong enough to be separate. I would allow Automatic with Brake if possible and give a 50 lb or so wt reduction . Last edited by Dick Butler; 12-13-2013 at 12:10 PM. |
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions and we have this great site to express them. I don't agree, however, that speed is the driving force of this proposed eliminator. I would MUCH rather watch Robin Brown's Chevy II than a Top Sportsman car. I truly believe that the attraction will still be the high RPM's coupled to a stick shift. Randy is just throwing out ideas on a class. Keep the ideas coming in because it has to start somewhere!!
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Speed within reason.......is what I'm suggesting. This racer is about as much "Modified Production" influenced as any. My "speed" parameters would be cars running 9.0s to 10.50s. Thats it , the end. |
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Hey Joe. I just took it for granted that everyone knew I was talking about CFM. Sorry. Don't stop with your suggestions. People may like them better then mine. Also, you don't need 20 inches of vac, but if you let me, and 100 others have our pumps, we will damn sure have 20 inches of vac. I own 2 complete Star systems, and hire one of the best block prep men in the world, and all my motors pull between 19, and 20 inches. Most people with a pan vac, doing their best, will struggle to pull 4 inches of vac. Just keeping it simple. I was just stating that these are all things we can do without, and would make the $1,300 dollar rings less advantagious. I'm just throwing this stuff out there. I AIN'T trying to take over, just relaying ideas.
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The old IHRA Super Mod class rules were simple enough, cheap enough to build, easy to tech, and fun to run.
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Yes Ed. I agree. The old super mod classes were great. But I think the min. wt. was 3,000lbs. Correct. And 750 cfm, B, an C. 850 cfm A. My point is the heads we are referring to, cost less today, in actual $, then the ones they ran back then. I think that's the selling point. No one has to look for a head porter. And for all those under cover porting company's that advertise? Brodix says "Bring em on," They'll never fool the builders of said heads. May fool an inexperienced tech guy, but not the builders, and designers.High side limiters? Don't know. Some stuff just needs hashed out. Like I've said, I don't have nearly all the answers. Also, I'm not against the old Cleveland head, and the bowtie vortec. But what's mopar going to run? The brodix is the less expensive way to go. Plus, a chance for sponsor money.
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IHRA, unlike NHRA, was just one class. 10 lbs, everybody got 850 carbs, 11.5" tires, and was run, unlike NHRA, as a heads up eliminator. Qualified and paired on a ladder. Don't remember if it was limited to 16 or 32 cars. I never ran one where more than 16 cars showed up anyway. Like running Pro Stock on a budget. Was pretty cool, except on his rear bumper is as close to Ricky Smith as I ever ran. LOL
Ported my own heads & manifold. My 317" engine was quicker with a 750 carb.
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ED, Randy, I tend to believe ONE class to "force" everyone to start out together. Make it easier to convince NHRA that the quantity is easier. to get.
Wonderful if run as one class but with the NHRA points meets its easier to bend people into a new class since they wont be giving up the points meets till a one class can be run. |
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Works for me Dick. Keep me posted.
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