2014 426 Hemi Rules

charlie westcott · 03-29-2013, 04:47 PM

It doesn't matter what the rules are, the results will still be the same, and I dont see what credibility someone has that hasnt been at a race in 4 years. If excuses were factored into a timeslip, the class would have different winners.

john oliverio · 03-29-2013, 08:10 PM

We were at that 1980 race with our 65 car. They were throwing out cars for light blocks and 68 cars for light fiberglass. I remember they tossed Big Joe for a light block in his black 65 stick car, He told them that he came to race and would bolt a head on the front bumper just to get to race. We were all standing around and Joe said boys you know that these Chevy guys are breed to hate us. Of course you would have to hear Joe say it to appreciate it. But there were a bunch tossed out.

Bucky Hess · 03-29-2013, 09:40 PM

Hey Chuck, Jason said will let the car do the talking,

l88427 · 03-30-2013, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucky Hess

Hey Chuck, Jason said will let the car do the talking,

I love it!! NHRA take note this is what draws crowds a good old fashioned rivalry from well respected competitors ,engine builders and drivers good luck to you all well be watching!

john oliverio · 03-30-2013, 09:46 AM

SS/DA You are right they did not hesitate to toss out anybody. Jr. Carpinent was angry about light fiberglass. You know back then everyone wanted to beat the other guy, but it seems you did not have the kind of tension between the hemi racers Back then Hemi guys were Mopar diehards.Everybody wanted to beat the other guy but after the race they were friends again. It seems like nobody really slammed the other guy as they do today. Bucky Hess may have not been out for awhile but he was when a lot of people gave up on the Hemi cars

Crew Chief · 03-30-2013, 10:21 AM

SS had class eliminations at the Gators and only one SS/AH shows up. He had to run in the Combo class. Are racers in SS/AH not interested in running unless special money is put up for their class win?

At least it was good to see that six cars in SS/AH did show up for Belle Rose and one made it to the semifinals in SS eliminator.

David Barton · 03-30-2013, 11:30 PM

Man, what a mess. Is this an early April fools joke? Just when I thought it was over and we could move on.

If they are seriously going through with this decision for those reasons they should also consider reversing some of the other rules.

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SSDA Hemi · 03-29-2013, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie westcott

I dont see what credibility someone has that hasnt been at a race in 4 years. If excuses were factored into a timeslip, the class would have different winners.

Sorry Charlie, that is just wrong...

I'm going to just bite my lip and just tell a little story about Bucky. When he was helping me load my "Cuda he cut his hand. As I watched him putting a band aid on I realized his blood wasn't red - He was bleeding HEMI ORANGE!

If there is ever a vote of Inductees into the Super Stock Hemi hall of fame, Bucky will definitely get my first vote...

SSDA Hemi · 03-30-2013, 06:25 AM

John, Thanks for the added details to that 1980 Indy Hemi saga. Another picture from that event:

As you can see thats a pretty high profile factory team car in that trailer. Obviously Politics weren't involved in their decision to toss anyone...

I was not at Indy in 2012 so anything I say will be here-say, BUT the facts I do know is that the winner and the lone car that was tossed did have the same "external modification". Now IMO, a few bolts that stabilize the valvetrain through the head are not external modifications. But technically they are and NHRA saw it that they were- illegal - For one car and one car only and not in post-race teardown. Were politics involved? IDK or do I really care at this point as it wont change anything.

All that matters from here forward is a consistent and equal enforcement of the rules for all...

CMcAllister · 03-31-2013, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie westcott

It doesn't matter what the rules are, the results will still be the same, and I dont see what credibility someone has that hasnt been at a race in 4 years. If excuses were factored into a timeslip, the class would have different winners.

25 some years in the class and having won just about everything worth winning at some point, has earned that credibility.

03-29-2013, 04:47 PM	#1
charlie westcott Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 131 Likes: 0 Liked 216 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 2014 426 Hemi Rules It doesn't matter what the rules are, the results will still be the same, and I dont see what credibility someone has that hasnt been at a race in 4 years. If excuses were factored into a timeslip, the class would have different winners.

03-29-2013, 08:10 PM	#2
john oliverio Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: bridgeport,wv Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2014 426 Hemi Rules We were at that 1980 race with our 65 car. They were throwing out cars for light blocks and 68 cars for light fiberglass. I remember they tossed Big Joe for a light block in his black 65 stick car, He told them that he came to race and would bolt a head on the front bumper just to get to race. We were all standing around and Joe said boys you know that these Chevy guys are breed to hate us. Of course you would have to hear Joe say it to appreciate it. But there were a bunch tossed out.

03-29-2013, 09:40 PM	#3
Bucky Hess Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bunker Hill Posts: 182 Likes: 69 Liked 151 Times in 23 Posts	Re: 2014 426 Hemi Rules Hey Chuck, Jason said will let the car do the talking, __________________ Bucky Hess 1426 SS/AH

03-30-2013, 09:46 AM	#5
john oliverio Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: bridgeport,wv Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2014 426 Hemi Rules SS/DA You are right they did not hesitate to toss out anybody. Jr. Carpinent was angry about light fiberglass. You know back then everyone wanted to beat the other guy, but it seems you did not have the kind of tension between the hemi racers Back then Hemi guys were Mopar diehards.Everybody wanted to beat the other guy but after the race they were friends again. It seems like nobody really slammed the other guy as they do today. Bucky Hess may have not been out for awhile but he was when a lot of people gave up on the Hemi cars Last edited by john oliverio; 03-30-2013 at 09:54 AM.

03-30-2013, 10:21 AM	#6
Crew Chief Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 184 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 2014 426 Hemi Rules SS had class eliminations at the Gators and only one SS/AH shows up. He had to run in the Combo class. Are racers in SS/AH not interested in running unless special money is put up for their class win? At least it was good to see that six cars in SS/AH did show up for Belle Rose and one made it to the semifinals in SS eliminator.

03-30-2013, 11:30 PM	#7
David Barton Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 199 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2014 426 Hemi Rules Man, what a mess. Is this an early April fools joke? Just when I thought it was over and we could move on. If they are seriously going through with this decision for those reasons they should also consider reversing some of the other rules. Clutchless Transmissions Small Rod Journals Tunnel Rams Inline Carbs

03-30-2013, 06:25 AM	#9
SSDA Hemi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 503 Likes: 130 Liked 451 Times in 77 Posts	Re: 2014 426 Hemi Rules John, Thanks for the added details to that 1980 Indy Hemi saga. Another picture from that event: As you can see thats a pretty high profile factory team car in that trailer. Obviously Politics weren't involved in their decision to toss anyone... I was not at Indy in 2012 so anything I say will be here-say, BUT the facts I do know is that the winner and the lone car that was tossed did have the same "external modification". Now IMO, a few bolts that stabilize the valvetrain through the head are not external modifications. But technically they are and NHRA saw it that they were- illegal - For one car and one car only and not in post-race teardown. Were politics involved? IDK or do I really care at this point as it wont change anything. All that matters from here forward is a consistent and equal enforcement of the rules for all...

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