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Old 07-17-2012, 01:09 PM   #1
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Robert,

Are you at min weight for your class, or close to it? It is quite an accomplishment to get a car to run the index and less. Its also not just throwing go fast parts at it to make it go.

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Old 07-17-2012, 05:38 PM   #2
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Robert,

Are you at min weight for your class, or close to it? It is quite an accomplishment to get a car to run the index and less. Its also not just throwing go fast parts at it to make it go.

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No Sean. Weightwise, at present, we're heavy. At the E break, the car fits at 2870. That is roughly the dry weight of the car, add a couple hundred pounds with me in it. I'm realistic, without a lot of work, we're not going to get there.

Right now, we're just baby stepping. Learning what we can about the car. Trust me on this one, for stock, there aren't a lot of go fast parts to throw at this car. I'm just enjoying the challenge for the moment.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:44 PM   #3
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No Sean. Weightwise, at present, we're heavy. At the E break, the car fits at 2870. That is roughly the dry weight of the car, add a couple hundred pounds with me in it. I'm realistic, without a lot of work, we're not going to get there.

Right now, we're just baby stepping. Learning what we can about the car. Trust me on this one, for stock, there aren't a lot of go fast parts to throw at this car. I'm just enjoying the challenge for the moment.
If you are using a stock ECU no matter how many parts you throw at it. It will adjust itself away from where you want to go.
Next time at the track. try disconnecting the battery for 2 minutes in the staging lanes. then go run without a burn out. I'm not familiar with GM stuff (maybe you GM guys can kick in) but on a Mopar it makes a world of difference.
One big problem you are going to face with that combo is that years ago. GM made up specs as they went along, they had quite a racing program. They used a lot of "one of" custom parts. In the whole driveline. (thats one reason why I laugh at those crying about the DPs and CJ's. Because those parts were only available to a few.
Back in the 90's the Quad 4 was almost as good as the turbo dodges (before the dodges got hp). I believe the Quad 4 was 175 hp.
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If you are using a stock ECU no matter how many parts you throw at it. It will adjust itself away from where you want to go.
Next time at the track. try disconnecting the battery for 2 minutes in the staging lanes. then go run without a burn out. I'm not familiar with GM stuff (maybe you GM guys can kick in) but on a Mopar it makes a world of difference.
One big problem you are going to face with that combo is that years ago. GM made up specs as they went along, they had quite a racing program. They used a lot of "one of" custom parts. In the whole driveline. (thats one reason why I laugh at those crying about the DPs and CJ's. Because those parts were only available to a few.
Back in the 90's the Quad 4 was almost as good as the turbo dodges (before the dodges got hp). I believe the Quad 4 was 175 hp.
Art,

To add, not only a lot of different specs, there are quite a few versions of these engines as well. This one is rated at 150hp. From what I've garnered information wise, this model has the worst stock intake of the many different versions.

For now it's mainly a toy. Just throwing some basic things at it, see what we can wring out of it. I may try that, unhook the battery for a couple minutes then make a pass. Kinda have to laugh, we still have the stock street tires on the car. Haven't even bothered with attempting a burn out. To be honest, how do you do a burnout with a FWD car? Do you plumb a line lok into the rear wheels or just set the parking break? I've never tried yet.
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To add, not only a lot of different specs, there are quite a few versions of these engines as well. This one is rated at 150hp. From what I've garnered information wise, this model has the worst stock intake of the many different versions.

For now it's mainly a toy. Just throwing some basic things at it, see what we can wring out of it. I may try that, unhook the battery for a couple minutes then make a pass. Kinda have to laugh, we still have the stock street tires on the car. Haven't even bothered with attempting a burn out. To be honest, how do you do a burnout with a FWD car? Do you plumb a line lok into the rear wheels or just set the parking break? I've never tried yet.
I forgot, the hubcaps may reduce the weight another 10 lbs ...
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No Sean. Weightwise, at present, we're heavy. At the E break, the car fits at 2870. That is roughly the dry weight of the car, add a couple hundred pounds with me in it. I'm realistic, without a lot of work, we're not going to get there.

Right now, we're just baby stepping. Learning what we can about the car. Trust me on this one, for stock, there aren't a lot of go fast parts to throw at this car. I'm just enjoying the challenge for the moment.
I am thinking we can find a 100 pounds or so fairly easy...
The thing still has the spare and jack in it. The complete exhaust system besides being restrictive weighs something. The A/C Comp can come off, that might be the biggest single reduction.

Trunk mats and hood insulation is a little more. Speakers can come out

Beyond that it gets tougher.

I don't know if the rule of thumb we used to use where 100 lbs equal a tenth still holds with this type of car or not.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:18 PM   #7
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100 lbs is not a tenth on higher HP faster cars, but in this case I would expect so.
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