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Old 03-03-2012, 12:24 AM   #1
Mark Madison
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Default Re: High gear clutch slippage

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Besides the mechanical issue of changing gears due to ratio, the clutch will slip more or less dependent upon the time spent between gears. A racer that uses the clutch to shift, no matter how blindingly fast he may think he is, requires a completely different clutch tune that a racer that does not use a clutch to shift. On top of that, the transmission (clutch or clutch assisted by design) choice affects slippage even if the clutch is not used to shift gears.
All of these issues can be tuned with the proper clutch. That includes not only the basics like base pressure and counterweight, but also lever design and friction materials used. The Sportsman Single 10" I have used in the past and the Sportsman Dual 7" I am going to use in the very near future has heat shields made from specific alloys not found on competitors components. The clutch disks employed on these, while not a trade secrete by design (like the heat shields), are specific to the application by material and density.
Finally, a racer that has had his clutch friction materials "rebuilt" by resurfacing instead of having friction materials replaced with new components will not see the same results by rebuilding vs. replacement parts. The reason is rebuilding by cutting surfaces lessens the thickness of the materials and their ability to absorb heat and as a result the clutches friction materials service life can be severely shortened. The thinner the parts, the quicker they will warp. The quicker they warp, the quicker you reduce the plate loads to unacceptable levels. This causes the racer to run excessive base and / or counterweight in an attempt to overcome the slippage. In the end, this is just a band-aide and performance (and more importantly; consistency) is impacted greatly.
So Stewart, there are many factors to consider. Hope this helps.
So replacement of heat sheilds is normal with a $900.00 clutch rebuild. mark Madison
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:12 AM   #2
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Default Re: High gear clutch slippage

Had a PM from a regular poster on here and he hit on a point not yet mentioned. Power strikes on the crank. As Jeff pointed out the drop is less on the 3-4 shift than the 2-3 shift. So the initial rpm after the gear change is higher resulting in more power strikes for the same time period and at a higher HP (RPM)level so more force is applied at the 3-4 shift than any other shift.
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When is the "very near furure"? Don't think I'll be out this year in my car. I went against the trend and made a couple realtors happy. Bought a house on 4 acres with a 3000' shop.
Still own the other house and equiping the shop so not much spending on the Cuda. Putting the old house on the market in a couple weeks. Will take a beating but got a deal on the new one so we don't care. You selling anything out there?
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:37 AM   #3
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So replacement of heat sheilds is normal with a $900.00 clutch rebuild. mark Madison
Yes, I`ve had several McLeod Soft Loks rebuilt by both McLeod as well as Tim Hyatt, and each time new heat shields were installed on the flywheels and pressure rings. Usually by the time the clutch needs a rebuild, the heat shields are getting blue hot spots, irregular surfaces, and the outer edges that don`t see disc contact are curling up.I would have to think that any money saved by grinding the old heat shields would be offset by a very rapid re-occurance of warpage. New heat shields are a must.
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