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Old 12-02-2011, 01:23 PM   #1
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is sway bar and anti roll bar the same thing in a f-body?
No sir.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:15 PM   #2
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No sir.
care to explain the differance?
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:54 AM   #3
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I was told I could use an anti-rollbar on the rearend in stock but it had to be a bolt-in unit.
Is it legal to weld in box tubing for mounting the anti-rollbar?

Check out this installation:

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...via-suspension
well the rule book says you can "beef up" the frame, and the anti roll bar is technically bolted to what ever extra "bracing" they added
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:11 AM   #4
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well the rule book says you can "beef up" the frame, and the anti roll bar is technically bolted to what ever extra "bracing" they added
I can't find that one. Could you please point out where that is in the book?
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Old 12-02-2011, 12:07 PM   #5
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I can't find that one. Could you please point out where that is in the book?
Original rear end may be replaced with another from the same
automobile manufacturer; truck rear end prohibited. Distance
between backing plates may not be changed. Any gear ratio that
fits third-member case or housing permitted. Limited-slip or
ratchet-type rear ends permitted. Reinforcement of spring perch
permitted. Spools permitted only with aftermarket axles.
Aftermarket axles not required for front-wheel-drive vehicles.
Larger brakes may be used. Replacement rear end may be
narrowed or widened to obtain original rear-end width. Bracing or
beefing up the rear-end housing permitted.


Swing axle differential may be replaced with conventional housing;
stock trailing arms must be retained, may be beefed up and
adapted to housing, must retain transverse spring. Must install
Panhard bar. Frame may be notched for driveshaft clearance.
Distance between OEM backing plates and OEM wheelbase must
be maintained. Coil-over shock or four-link adaptations prohibited.
See General Regulations 2:11.


I assume that's on the housing only is the way I read it

FRAME
Frame or subframe must be stock for body used. Subframes on
unibody cars may be joined. Maximum-size material to be used is 2
inches x 3 inches x 1/8-inch. Round tubing may be used to tie front
and rear subframes together and join subframe in straight line
extending through car floor, with floor completely welded to
member.

i don't see the words "beefing up" under " FRAME"
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Original rear end may be replaced with another from the same
automobile manufacturer; truck rear end prohibited. Distance
between backing plates may not be changed. Any gear ratio that
fits third-member case or housing permitted. Limited-slip or
ratchet-type rear ends permitted. Reinforcement of spring perch
permitted. Spools permitted only with aftermarket axles.
Aftermarket axles not required for front-wheel-drive vehicles.
Larger brakes may be used. Replacement rear end may be
narrowed or widened to obtain original rear-end width. Bracing or
beefing up the rear-end housing permitted.


Swing axle differential may be replaced with conventional housing;
stock trailing arms must be retained, may be beefed up and
adapted to housing, must retain transverse spring. Must install
Panhard bar. Frame may be notched for driveshaft clearance.
Distance between OEM backing plates and OEM wheelbase must
be maintained. Coil-over shock or four-link adaptations prohibited.
See General Regulations 2:11.


I assume that's on the housing only is the way I read it

FRAME
Frame or subframe must be stock for body used. Subframes on
unibody cars may be joined. Maximum-size material to be used is 2
inches x 3 inches x 1/8-inch. Round tubing may be used to tie front
and rear subframes together and join subframe in straight line
extending through car floor, with floor completely welded to
member.

i don't see the words "beefing up" under " FRAME"
Well there used to be something to that effect. But I haven't read that section in a while.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:17 AM   #7
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well the rule book says you can "beef up" the frame, and the anti roll bar is technically bolted to what ever extra "bracing" they added
The frame can be "beefed up" in stock?

I looked for that in the rulebook before I asked the question. I did not see any such statement in the stock section. The only allowable addition I can find is the connectors between front and rear subframes.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:56 AM   #8
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**** this... Does it really matter?
****'s been slid through, covered up or accepted by certain divisions / or inspectors for years,
so that there's nothing "stock" about this class anymore anyway. Weld the bars in. Who cares.
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:00 AM   #9
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**** this... Does it really matter?
It does to me!
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:31 AM   #10
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Apparently Billy, You & I are the only ones that it matters to.... to those that have ****ed up this class it doesn't.
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