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Old 03-03-2011, 03:23 PM   #1
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here's my favorite Old Trapper pic.
Mine too!

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:50 PM   #2
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Thats a neat "Old Trapper" shot. I have many memories of sitting in those stands at Seattle International Raceway as it was called back then. The starter standing behind the car in the photo is Ray Rice,,,father of div.7 director Mike Rice.
I'm thinking I have a color shot of this car, but don't know how to post it. I'll have to go through some of my boxes and find it.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:20 AM   #3
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h there have just joined the forum...was searching for a forgotten car when i came across your site and thought i could add some insite to a bit of mis information i read....the Demented Dart and the High Roller car are not the same car. the high Roller car is the Chinook Chrysler car...which lost some of its lightweight glass upon a late night tuning session in the service dept when the frequency of the glass didnt like the frequency emitted by the Hemi. also i see 4 cars listed as canadien...firstly its canadian...and secondly i was informed by cam that the only canadian car sold in the country was his...i talked to harold and he said that the high roller car was purchased by chinook from the states. Dick Panter ran the car one year for Cam ...and didnt buy the car...he also didnt own the High roller car as far as i heard. Cams car the demented car...also ran at the '68 winternat's where he was told to slow down...as he was running close to the times of the chrysler sponsered cars....he did...and when he got back to edmonton wa-la there was chrylser sponsership money....he also told me to try and keep the engines together...they were constantly finding wrecked cars to pilfer engines from...one car that i tried to buy later on was a 69 hemi daytona that had been rolled in central alberta...he said he sat in that car in 69 ...with the roof bent down ...and the wing busted off...and heard it run...but couldnt bring himself to pay the $2500 bucks the guy wanted for it. ah those were the days
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:29 AM   #4
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Ironhorse,,,,,,Welcome

Gil Clark, out of Toronto had one of the originals (which I believe was the
#5 car, a 4-speed, and an AHRA contract-racer)

Also, no Hemi A-Body Super/Stockers at the 68' Winternationals.
First major event was at the 68' Springnationals at Englishtown, NJ.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:38 PM   #5
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my mistake ...it was '69 winternats. i was told that the eastern canadian dart was also brought up pfrom the states...but not sure about that. i have some early pics of cam's car sent to me from Dick Panter...he said he ran the car for Cam i think for one season...thus the lettering on the doors. there is an early shot of Cams car with shoe polish lettering, one of both darts racing... in possibly Calgary. sorry for the quality will scan them tonight and resend. cheers
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:39 PM   #6
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Great photo's 'ironhorse'...

I knew you missed gear (by mistake) on the 1968 Winternationals,,,,,,,

Another Hemi,
'Queen Bee II', SS/B Hemi Cuda out of the Queen City, Cincinnati, Ohio
owner Dave Whitaker

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Old 03-04-2011, 06:19 PM   #7
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h there have just joined the forum...was searching for a forgotten car when i came across your site and thought i could add some insite to a bit of mis information i read....the Demented Dart and the High Roller car are not the same car. the high Roller car is the Chinook Chrysler car...which lost some of its lightweight glass upon a late night tuning session in the service dept when the frequency of the glass didnt like the frequency emitted by the Hemi. also i see 4 cars listed as canadien...firstly its canadian...and secondly i was informed by cam that the only canadian car sold in the country was his...i talked to harold and he said that the high roller car was purchased by chinook from the states. Dick Panter ran the car one year for Cam ...and didnt buy the car...he also didnt own the High roller car as far as i heard. Cams car the demented car...also ran at the '68 winternat's where he was told to slow down...as he was running close to the times of the chrysler sponsered cars....he did...and when he got back to edmonton wa-la there was chrylser sponsership money....he also told me to try and keep the engines together...they were constantly finding wrecked cars to pilfer engines from...one car that i tried to buy later on was a 69 hemi daytona that had been rolled in central alberta...he said he sat in that car in 69 ...with the roof bent down ...and the wing busted off...and heard it run...but couldnt bring himself to pay the $2500 bucks the guy wanted for it. ah those were the days
Wow, all this time I thought Mr. Panter had bought the old Chinook Dart.
Could be another memory oopsie on my part on the window, but I thought that it was broken while the Dart was sitting on it`s trailer at the back fence at Chinook Chrysler after they quit racing it. I do know that is when the hood went missing.
Also, don`t know if you are aware that the rolled Daytona hemi car was bought by a fellow from Calgary and restoration started, this happened quite a while ago and the car may be finished now...but looking in the background of the pic of your car...I guess you probably already know. Very cool pics...thanks

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Old 03-05-2011, 12:04 AM   #8
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that rolled daytona has been restored and hitting the street hard for a few years now. Over here in Sk. we always enjoyed a visit back in the day at Saskatoon International Raceway by the 2 Alberta Hemi Darts or any of the Old Trapper fleet. They raced here often.
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thanks for bringing up the daytona...i got scooped on that car as i told the present owner that i had just found it and roughly where it was ...and he went and bought it within 2 weeks.......learned to keep my mouth shut....oh well...he was a body man and he spent about 1000 hours to make it what it is today...cool car
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BFreddy,
The BO29 (List of original Barracuda owners) (not in car # order)

1) Ed Miller,,,,,, 'Ed Miller Racing'
Syracuse, New York ,,,,,,,'Syracuse Region Plymouth Dealers'
SS/B (4-Speed)

2) Bob Gaudreau,,,,,,,, 'Candy Cuda'
Bristol, Connecticut,,,,,,, 'New England Plymouth Dealers'
SS/B (4-Speed)

3) Phil Cerrone,,,,,'Harris Auto Sales'
East Providence, Rhode Island
SS/BA (Automatic)

4) John Macey,,,,,,'Heads Up',,,,'Harris Auto Sales'
Bridgeport, Connecticut
SS/BA (Automatic)

5) Bob Harrop,,,,,,'Psychotic Reaction'
Camden, New Jersey
SS/B (4-Speed)

6) Jack Werst,,,,,'Mr. 5 & 50'
Morrisville, Pennsylvania,,,,,'Philadelphia Region Plymouth Dealers'
SS/BA (Automatic)

7) Bill Stiles,,,,,,'Stiles Performance'
York, Pennsylvania,,,,,,'York Area Plymouth Dealers'
SS/BA (Automatic)

8) Ken Montgomery,,,,,,,'555'
Roslyn, Pennsylvania,,,,,,,,,,,,,'Knopf Plymouth'
SS/BA (originally an Automatic, but changed to a 4-Speed)

9) James A. Thomas & Milton E. Updyke,,,,,'Thomas & Updyke'
Tyronne, Pennsylvania
SS/BA (Automatic)

10) Tom Myl,,,,,'Pete Myl Chrysler-Plymouth'
Corapolis, Pennsylvania
SS/BA (Automatic)

11) Tom Smith,,,,,,'Hemi Power'
Clinton, Maryland
SS/BA (Automatic)

12) Jim Skarbuck,,,,,'Private Enterprise'
Roanoke, Virginia
SS/B (4-Speed)

13) Charles Mercer,,,,'Super Fish'
Chesapeake, Virginia
SS/B (4-Speed)

14) Al Baldwin
Pineville, Virginia
SS/B (4-Speed)

15) Sox & Martin,,,,,#784 NHRA
Burlington, North Carolina
SS/B (4-Speed),,,('Lil Boss' on fender, blue-tinted side glass)

16) Sox & Martin (2nd Car)
Burlington, North Carolina
SS/B (4-Speed)

17) Don Carlton,,,,,,'Lil Thumper'
Lenoir, North Carolina
SS/B (4-Speed)

18) Robert Nance,,,,'Mr. Plymouth'
Ringgold, Georgia
SS/BA (Automatic)

19) Harold Dutton,,,,,,,'Drag Hag'
Forest Park, Georgia
SS/B (4-Speed)

20) Larry Todd
Jacksonville, Florida,,,,,'St. John's Chrysler-Plymouth',,, St. Augustine, Florida
SS/BA (Automatic)

21) Doug Warren,,,,,,,,'Check Mate'
Fort Lauderdale, Florida,,,,,'Bill Binko Chrysler-Plymouth'
SS/BA (Automatic)

22) Dennis Dinsmore,,,,,,'Hemi Inc.'
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
SS/B (4-Speed)

23) Ray Christian
Columbus, Ohio
SS/B (4-Speed)

24) Bill Vanwey
Dayton, Ohio
SS/B (4-Speed)

25) Dick Humbert & Billy Stepp,,,,'Billy The Kid'
Dayton, Ohio
SS/B (4-Speed)

26) Arlen Vanke,,,,'East Town Chrysler-Plymouth'
Akron, Ohio
SS/B (4-Speed)

27) Wilkes Motor Sales (Bought by Arlon Vanke, for use as his 2nd car)
Zainesville, Ohio
SS/B (4-Speed)

28) Dave Whitaker,,,,,,,'Queen Bee'
Cincinnati, Ohio
SS/BA (Automatic)

29) Bob Porter,,,,,,,'Porter's Pride'
Minford, Ohio
SS/BA (Automatic)

30) Al Adamic,,,,,,,'Al's Toy'
Wickcliffe, Ohio
SS/BA (Automatic)

31) George Byers Sons Plymouth
Columbus, Ohio
SS/BA (Automatic)

32) Vaughn Currie,,,,'Soul Explosion'
Memphis, Tennessee
SS/B (4-Speed)

33) Billy Taylor & Pat Collins,,,,,,,,,'Lil Super Cuda'
Memphis, Tennessee
SS/BA (Automatic)

34) David Heath,,,,,,'Kentucky Colonels'
Owensboro, Kentucky
SS/B (4-Speed)

35) Paul Lance
Madisonville, Kentucky
SS/BA (Automatic)

36) Metcalf Chrysler-Plymouth
Brewerton, Alabama
SS/BA (Automatic)

37) Jim Hale,,,,,,,'Norcross Motors'
Fort Smith, Arkansas
SS/BA (Automatic)

38) Van Broussard,,,,,,,'Papa Cuda'
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
SS/BA (Automatic)

39) Dean Nicopolis
Northville, Michigan
SS/BA (Automatic)

40) Joseph Arvay
Flint, Michigan
SS/BA (Automatic)

41) Jim Wick,,,,,'Matchmaker'
Fond du Lac, Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,'Packer City Plymouth'
SS/BA (Automatic)

2) John Hagen
St. Paul, Minnesota
SS/B (4-Speed)

43) Bob Coder
Fort Wayne, Indiana
SS/BA (Automatic)

44) Paul Lance
Boonville, Indiana
SS/B (4-Speed)

45) Schmaltz Concrete
SS/BA (Automatic)
Osgood, Indiana

46) Jim Halloran
Chicago, Illinois,,,,,,,,'Park Chrysler-Plymouth'
SS/BA (Automatic)

47) Phil Bailey,,,,'Tinker Toy'
Champaign, Illinois
SS/B (4-Speed)

48) Chuck Ostrich
Nevada, Iowa
SS/BA (Automatic)

49) Greg Brennenman
Washington, Iowa
SS/B (4-Speed)

50) Rich Thomas,,,,,'Rich Thomas Racing'
Arnold, Missouri
SS/B (4-Speed)

51) Danny Byrd
Sikeston, Missouri
SS/B (4-Speed)

52) Bruce Sharkey,,,,,'Sharkey Racing Enterprises'
Springfield, Missouri
SS/B (4-Speed)

53) 'Micro Lube Special' KXOK Radio (sponsored Russel Funk)
St. Louis, Missouri
SS/BA (Automatic)

54) Billy Coone,,,,,,,'Deguello' (No Mercy)
Waco, Texas
SS/BA (Automatic)

55) Dallas County Plymouth Dealers Association
Dallas, Texas
SS/BA (Automatic)

56) McBroom Motors
Pampa, Texas
SS/BA (Automatic)

57) Don Grotheer,,,,,,,'Cable Chrysler-Plymouth'
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
SS/B (4-Speed)

58) Gordon Stewart,,,,,,'Hair Bender'
Sioux City, Souh Dakota
SS/BA (Automatic)

59) Dave Wren
Missoula, Montana
SS/BA (Automatic)

60) Ron McDowell & Jerry Taylor,,,,,,'Gentle Ben'
Meridian, Idaho
SS/BA (automatic)

61) Judy Lilly,,,,,,,'Denver Plymouth Dealers'
Denver, Colorado
SS/BA (Automatic)

62) Ken Van Cleave
Salem, Oregon
SS/B (4-Speed)

63) 'Double Trouble'
Hillsboro, Oregon,,,,,,,'Coletti Chrysler-Plymouth'
SS/BA (Automatic)

64) Ray Chaffee,,,,,'Pilgrim's Progress'
Seattle, Washington
SS/B (4-Speed)

65) Wiley Cossey,,,,,,'California Hooker Headers'
Baldwin Park, California
SS/B (4-Speed)

66) Don Bowers,,,,,,,'Prince Chrysler-Plymouth'
Inglewood, California
SS/BA (Automatic)

67) 'Bear-A-Cuda'
Fremont, California,,,,'Freed Motor Co.'
SS/BA (Automatic)

68) Chuck Poole,,,,,,,,,'Holeshot II'
Sacramento, California,,,'Arden Chrysler-Plymouth'
SS/BA (Automatic)

69) Town & Country Chrysler-Plymouth
Phoenix, Arizona
SS/BA (Automatic)

70) Harrah's Casino
Las Vegas, Nevada
SS/BA (Automatic)

* More to add
(2) Hemi Cuda's

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