Nhra reinstates Sportsman oildown penalties

[Tom Joseph]

Originally Posted by voltdr

I agree with Rock. We do get a freebee. This is better than the first go-round. And the Alcohol cars get a bigger fine for what they do. Everyone should run a diaper regardless of class, ET or MPH.
Dan

This is one of the best posts here especially the" Everyone should run a diaper regardless of class, ET or MPH."
Now with the slower bracket cars coming it would be a smart move.

[Jason Oldfield]

Originally Posted by voltdr

I agree with Rock. We do get a freebee. This is better than the first go-round. And the Alcohol cars get a bigger fine for what they do. Everyone should run a diaper regardless of class, ET or MPH.
Dan

Is it better than the first go-round with this idiotic rule? Absolutely. But, all this change did was make it go from INSANELY IDIOTIC to Completely Idiotic. Should everyone run a diaper on their car for safety purposes? Absolutely. But, a diaper does not cure all with regard to the oildown penalty. Blow a tranny and leak some fluid on the track? Penalty. Blow a head gasket and put some coolant on the track? Penalty. Master cylinder leak? Penalty. Catastrophic rear-end failure? Penalty.

And what's worst about this (as somebody else mentioned), is with us you're just adding insult to injury. Shame on me for not running a diaper when I blew my motor up at Atco a couple of years ago, but adding the $250 fine to the catastrophic damage that just occurred to my motor would have been like kicking me in the balls when I got out of the car. Though to be perfectly honest, I probably could have accepted the $250 fine BECAUSE I didn't have a diaper on the car at the time. If I'm adhering to all of your rules and put oil on the track though, I don't feel I should be fined for such an infraction.

Plus, what constitutes a fine? This has NEVER been defined. I've heard MULTIPLE horror stories about guys being fined because they deposited fluid on the track that was easily cleaned up with a mop. Where does it stop? When will they start fining up for dragging water from the burnout box up to the starting line?

NHRA can kiss my *****.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by sc1153

The oil down rule should apply for the classes that are getting into a national event WITHOUT PAYING!
TF, FC, PS, TAD, TAFC

Why do the people who create the least amount of problems, get the least amount of recognition, and are classified (at nationals) as "FILLER" get wrapped into the same category as TAD, and TAFC.

I say Leave Stock, Super Stock, Super Street, Super Gas, and Super Comp out of this oil down rule, we pay more than anyone else just to show up, why should we get threatened incase we have our cars break!

Because NHRA knows they can get away with anything and you guys will STILL keep showing up and giving them your $$$$$$$$ !

[FED 387]

to all racers especially Jason----an oildown is ONLY oil deposited on the track surface starting from behind the burnout box all the way thru the turn off area IF it requires any type of mechanical equiptment(tractor sweeper etc,) AND it causes a delay in the racing activities----water and other fluids etc are considered an oildown ----any fluids cleaned up with a mop or a rag ARE NOT an oil down!!!!! It's only engine oil/gear lube, trans fluid AND IT/ that requires any type of mechanical equipment to clean it up!!!!!

[FED 387]

EXCUSE ME I posted incorrectly part of the policy---WATER AND OTHER FLUIDS as long as it is not OIL ARE NOT--ARE NOT!!!! considered an oildown

[Rick Bailey]

Allow me to share how this policy was explained to me.......NHRA, rather than implementing a diaper rule on all the classes they just reinstated the Oildown Policy. In which most racers would then install a diaper rather than hand NHRA money via a imposed fine.

Source .......very reliable..................



Rick Bailey

[63corvette]

Quote: EXCUSE ME I posted incorrectly part of the policy---WATER AND OTHER FLUIDS as long as it is not OIL ARE NOT--ARE NOT!!!! considered an oildown

Then it has changed from years past because my buddy paid for a water leak between the water box and the starting line that was mopped up before I ran right behind him after they shut him off. Fixing it was easy just tighten up a Aeroquip fitting.
I saw it happen right in front of me at Las Vegas.
Rick Cates

[Jason Oldfield]

Originally Posted by FED 387

to all racers especially Jason----an oildown is ONLY oil deposited on the track surface starting from behind the burnout box all the way thru the turn off area IF it requires any type of mechanical equiptment(tractor sweeper etc,) AND it causes a delay in the racing activities----water and other fluids etc are considered an oildown ----any fluids cleaned up with a mop or a rag ARE NOT an oil down!!!!! It's only engine oil/gear lube, trans fluid AND IT/ that requires any type of mechanical equipment to clean it up!!!!!

Well, if that is the case, then that is definitely different than it was before. Wanna bet that isn't how it is enforced once the races start though? Mickey Whaley was the first to have a fine imposed on him the last time this was enacted. It was for a blown transmission, and he pulled off to the side of the track as soon as it was safe to do so, yet was still fined. I'll bet this is how it goes down this time too, if it ever comes to that (again, the new policy IS an improvement over the old policy in at least we get 1 freebie per year.)

Also, if it is for engine oil only, and I have a standard wet-sump oil system with an oil-retention device, yet still deposit fluid on the track, am I excused from any penalties? If this was done supposedly as an alternative to mandating oil-retention devices, then I should be immune from any fines / penalties if I DO run an oil-retention device. Again, I'm a believer in diapers from a safety standpoint, but why are oil-retention devices REQUIRED in S/G & S/C, but these same competitors (most of which use standard wet sump oiling systems) can also be fined for oiling the track with engine oil?

NHRA can still kiss my *****.

[FED 387]

According to NHRA a few drops of oil like 2-3 NOT A QUART if it can be wiped/mopped up is not an infraction--- however if it involves a major cleanup where they hafta literally stop the racing for quite a while get out the oil dri and sweep get the tractors drag the tires up and down the track get your wallet out et its gonna be a fine--minor drops are OK-that is from NHRA

[RACER1530]

I hadnt raced the big car for a few years because i was racing the kids in juniors and my first pass back my oil sender cracked leaking some oil and they were waiting for me at the ticket booth with my fine.I havent went to a national event since then and still havent paid the fine because I have no intention of going to there lame,no fun, over priced,
way too many rules, maybee get one run, be there wendsday night,
SCREW THE SPORTSMAN RACER RACES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!