Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight!

CBS · 09-09-2010, 04:07 PM

Now that's an opinion.......what a surprise...lol

2-0 for the Scotty rule in Div 1....

jmcarter · 09-09-2010, 05:05 PM

Agree on keeping the Scotty rule...not everybody has a stacker and like me it's one or the other....

Don't agree on double races; as previously pointed out a prior and important obligation would kill your points chances.

billy leber · 09-09-2010, 06:26 PM

That was rather short for you Oldfield! Now get outside and work on that garage queen , well maybe next year.

Jason Oldfield · 09-09-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy leber

That was rather short for you Oldfield! Now get outside and work on that garage queen , well maybe next year.

Nah....Too lazy...

A bench is calling my name somewhere...

luckydog · 09-09-2010, 07:12 PM

In my opinion the double point races would work better at the sport nationals, if a sports national could be added to each division. No alky cars = LOTS more time. 2 TT/Qual Friday and race 2-3 rounds, Sat: finish 1st race then 1 TT/qual for 2nd race and possible 1st round. Race Sun and everyone is heading home early. Lots of cars already attend these races, so it's kinda a win/win for everyone.

Keep the Scotty rule...........Anybody who thinks SST is an entry level class has no idea what they're talking about. However, as someone else pointed out, letting the multi-car teams in SST would leave lots of us with only 1 car on the sidelines at national events and push more of us away from NHRA (unless that is their intention). Also, as others have said, 1 or 2 more national events per division would be great! Kinda sucks to pay the same entry, license, membership, cert and safety fees as everyone esle, and get treated like the toe headed, bow legged, butt tooth, basdard children of the sport. A national points system would be excellent, but now we're really dreaming.

SST 1st round on Saturday at divisionals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave the indexs alone........I run 10.30 flat out, so if that happens......SEE YA LATER!!!!!!!!!!!

sc1153 · 09-09-2010, 08:33 PM

I say GET RID OF ALCOHOL (the class not the drinks), and have friday as time runs, and saturday have one time run and race eliminations until we cant anymore, then on sunday NO TIME RUNS, and race another race, and complete what was not completed on saturday. Obviously would have to give more time for those in late from the sat race and racing the sun race too (especially with double entries)

As far as alcohol, let them run at the national events and exibition events only. not for nothing they screw up the track and take WAY too much time more than the benefit of the additional spectators. Top Sportsman and Top Dragster will be bringing in the spectators, so we dont need ALCOHOL!

CBS jr · 09-10-2010, 03:21 PM

Jason...you don't even race... besides i thought your billys shadow. LOL

mopar · 09-15-2010, 03:20 PM

as a s/st racer it amazes me when i hear that s/st is an ENTRY LEVEL$$$$. the only category that could be considered ENTRY would be Z stock (not for long) the issue of spectators will not change because they come for the PROS. lower the indexes will only keep new racers away , more $$$$ to compete. lets look at National points and Events for s/st

Ron Waters s/st 1346

TS310C · 09-16-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc1153

I say GET RID OF ALCOHOL (the class not the drinks), and have friday as time runs, and saturday have one time run and race eliminations until we cant anymore, then on sunday NO TIME RUNS, and race another race, and complete what was not completed on saturday. Obviously would have to give more time for those in late from the sat race and racing the sun race too (especially with double entries)

As far as alcohol, let them run at the national events and exhibition events only. not for nothing they screw up the track and take WAY too much time more than the benefit of the additional spectators. Top Sportsman and Top Dragster will be bringing in the spectators, so we dont need ALCOHOL!

I agree completely about the alcohol cars. Last weekend in Earlville at the Div 5 race every time they ran we were down for 1.5 hours min for clean up. It was completely ridiculous! It is amazing they got the race done in time! If these guys can't make one stinking pass without blowing up they need to go!

krugracing12 · 09-16-2010, 03:59 PM

Get rid of the .370 or .360 tree and few people that are missing might come back. They change from the .4 to .5 tree with a computer program change, why not adjust the computer program to put the S/C and S/G classes back the way they were. There is nothing more frustrating than having .035 in the box one week and have to "snoop her in" for a .025 the next. No one in their right mind would repeatedly bring a car to a Div or Nat race that can only manage a .040 light. The touring sportsmen with mega-dollar equipment will always be there, but if you want the larger fields again, you need to make it more competitive for less money.

Bill Krug
TD 1531
S/C 1531
S/G 153K

09-09-2010, 04:07 PM	#1
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! Now that's an opinion.......what a surprise...lol 2-0 for the Scotty rule in Div 1....

09-09-2010, 05:05 PM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,297 Likes: 2,386 Liked 3,184 Times in 973 Posts	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! Agree on keeping the Scotty rule...not everybody has a stacker and like me it's one or the other.... Don't agree on double races; as previously pointed out a prior and important obligation would kill your points chances. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

09-09-2010, 06:26 PM	#3
billy leber Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: most places Posts: 211 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! That was rather short for you Oldfield! Now get outside and work on that garage queen , well maybe next year. __________________ Billy Leber 1150 SS, 1050 SG, 1962 STK, 185 SC

09-09-2010, 07:12 PM	#5
luckydog Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ottawa, OH Posts: 274 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! In my opinion the double point races would work better at the sport nationals, if a sports national could be added to each division. No alky cars = LOTS more time. 2 TT/Qual Friday and race 2-3 rounds, Sat: finish 1st race then 1 TT/qual for 2nd race and possible 1st round. Race Sun and everyone is heading home early. Lots of cars already attend these races, so it's kinda a win/win for everyone. Keep the Scotty rule...........Anybody who thinks SST is an entry level class has no idea what they're talking about. However, as someone else pointed out, letting the multi-car teams in SST would leave lots of us with only 1 car on the sidelines at national events and push more of us away from NHRA (unless that is their intention). Also, as others have said, 1 or 2 more national events per division would be great! Kinda sucks to pay the same entry, license, membership, cert and safety fees as everyone esle, and get treated like the toe headed, bow legged, butt tooth, basdard children of the sport. A national points system would be excellent, but now we're really dreaming. SST 1st round on Saturday at divisionals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leave the indexs alone........I run 10.30 flat out, so if that happens......SEE YA LATER!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Damien Hazelton Lucky Dog Racing

09-09-2010, 08:33 PM	#6
sc1153 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Parlin, NJ Posts: 420 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! I say GET RID OF ALCOHOL (the class not the drinks), and have friday as time runs, and saturday have one time run and race eliminations until we cant anymore, then on sunday NO TIME RUNS, and race another race, and complete what was not completed on saturday. Obviously would have to give more time for those in late from the sat race and racing the sun race too (especially with double entries) As far as alcohol, let them run at the national events and exibition events only. not for nothing they screw up the track and take WAY too much time more than the benefit of the additional spectators. Top Sportsman and Top Dragster will be bringing in the spectators, so we dont need ALCOHOL! __________________ Chris DePascale S/ST 1531 & S/C 1153....Addicted Racing Jad153@aol.com Last edited by sc1153; 09-09-2010 at 08:36 PM.

09-10-2010, 03:21 PM	#7
CBS jr Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: who cares Posts: 176 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! Jason...you don't even race... besides i thought your billys shadow. LOL

09-15-2010, 03:20 PM	#8
mopar Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! as a s/st racer it amazes me when i hear that s/st is an ENTRY LEVEL$$$$. the only category that could be considered ENTRY would be Z stock (not for long) the issue of spectators will not change because they come for the PROS. lower the indexes will only keep new racers away , more $$$$ to compete. lets look at National points and Events for s/st Ron Waters s/st 1346

09-16-2010, 03:59 PM	#10
krugracing12 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 171 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight! Get rid of the .370 or .360 tree and few people that are missing might come back. They change from the .4 to .5 tree with a computer program change, why not adjust the computer program to put the S/C and S/G classes back the way they were. There is nothing more frustrating than having .035 in the box one week and have to "snoop her in" for a .025 the next. No one in their right mind would repeatedly bring a car to a Div or Nat race that can only manage a .040 light. The touring sportsmen with mega-dollar equipment will always be there, but if you want the larger fields again, you need to make it more competitive for less money. Bill Krug TD 1531 S/C 1531 S/G 153K

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