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Old 06-17-2010, 11:02 AM   #1
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WJ,
As you know, I had my share of 273 Commando's.
I think it went like this.
In 1965, the 273/235 HP (#2712 lb.) Valiants were classed in D/S, and the heavier Cuda's were classed in F/S.
In 1966, NHRA upped the weight/breaks, and the 65' Valiants were classed in E/S, and the newer 66' Valiants were classed in F/S, and the
Cuda's (either 65' or 66') were classed in G/S with the 65'/66' 289/225HP Mustang (fastbacks) and 66' Chevy II's 283/220 HP cars.
The 65' Valiants (2712 lbs.) were about 100 lbs. lighter than the 66' Valiant (2808 lbs.) cars
By the way, I had several of those rectangular-tipped chrome-ended resonators, including (2) new ones in a Chrysler box, that I got for free from
the parts manager at Meadowland-Plymouth. I threw them out.
Now I hear there worth a small fortune.
Last time a made a jump, my wife packed my parachute.
'I HIT THE GROUND LIKE A DART!!
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:41 PM   #2
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A 66 442 W30 won C/S at Indy. I have two of them. Tri Carbs, Outside Air Induction, battery in trunk.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:42 PM   #3
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Yes,
They were the dominant force.
Odd, the 66' Oldsmobile Cutlass 330/320 HP fell into the same class.
Don't see too many of those around.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:23 PM   #4
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1978 I was at the Barnett-Bagwell shop in Norcross GA and there was a 66 Belv II Hemi 4sp car. I asked whose it was and it was Terry Earwoods. I asked Terry if he wanted to sell it and the price was $800. I bought it and pulled the engine and trans out and just left the body there. Nothing wrong with it I just couldn't get it back to KC. I heard Warren B was not happy and the body was hauled to the junk yard.
There is also a small fortune buried under a concrete pad there. In the early 70's they were pouring an pad and needed some fill. Good time to clean out all the junk from the shop. Can't imagine the $$ worth of stock Hemi intakes, exhaust manifolds, manifold heat pipes, oil pans, pushrods and other stuff people hunt for today.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:47 PM   #5
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Stewart,
I just had to post those cars. Cleaning out my garage, and found a bunch of old Super/Stock magazines.
I'm sure most of us remember these cars, and how cheap you could have gotten one.
I wouldn't believe it, if I didn't see it with my own eyes. 1972, my fathers friend bought a pristine 66' Plymouth Satellite, 4-speed Hemi, dark-red with Cragars, but other-wise bone stock. The engine had sucked a valve, and the owner didn't want to spend money on repairs. My fathers friend bought it for $500. The steal of the century.
A week later, the 'Moron" had stripped the car to nothing. It looked like a carcass, just like when a pack of Hyena's rip apart an Antelope!
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Teak,
The 66' Dodge Charger is a little confusing. The car was called a mid-year production (release date January 1, 1966), I think normal production dates started in September 1965.
The 66' 383/325 HP weighed in at #3712, so it factored in at
11.42 wt/hp, which it fell into E/S or E/SA (11.30 - 11.88 wt/hp) for 1966.
Don't think they did much, as all the results show that they were around
13.90's, in class results in the magazines. Too much bulk.
As for the 66' Street Hemi Charger, not a good choice, way too much weight at #3895.
I don't think they could qualify for B/S in 66', I think they had to run in A/S despite the weight.
I'll check on the other question, but the 66' Charger was not available with a 440 production engine, BUT!
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Teak,
Found in the 1966 Niagara State Championship, end of year. Dodge Charger with a 440 engine, running in D/SA., turining 13.50's.
Here's what I think. If it was rated at its proper 375 HP factor, it would have been classed in C/SA. But I believe the tech. people rated it 350 HP, same as the
1966 Big-Body cars 440/350 HP, a mistake. The Charger was a new 67' with the 440/375 HP. It was Runner-Up in $tock Eliminator.
The only other possibility, it was a 1966 Charger, and the dealership installed a 440/365 HP (Police Interceptor Package) in the car, and claimed 350 HP.
You know, November 1966 is a long way from here!!
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:57 PM   #7
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Paul, Have you forgotten the Pied Piper when we ran it the first time out the C/S record was 13.07 on the third run my Dad went 12.77. This as the car was delivered from Vince Byrne Chevrolet with just headers 4.88 gears distributor recurve,carb work Hurst shifter,and scatter shield. We picked the car up on wednesday and ran it on sunday. We were protested that this car was never a production line car but we had all the documetation with us.
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