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Old 05-23-2010, 08:43 PM   #1
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Default Re: Painting a new SS/GT G5 (Rich South)

According to Super Stock GT rules and the ref. 7.5 general rules there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way PK has done this floor.

Nice work Pat.

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Old 05-24-2010, 06:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: Painting a new SS/GT G5 (Rich South)

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According to Super Stock GT rules and the ref. 7.5 general rules there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way PK has done this floor.

Nice work Pat.

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You might want to read the rule book a little closer....

7:5 FLOOR
All cars without floors must be equipped with floor pans made of
steel or aluminum that must extend the full length and width of the
driver compartment to the rear of the driver’s seat. Cars equipped
with floors or bellypans made of fiberglass or other breakable
material must have metal subfloors. In all cars with OEM fiberglass
floors, a crossmember (minimum 2 inches x 2 inches, .083-inch wall

FLOOR
Headers must fit under stock floor location. The stock framerails
from the firewall to the radiator support must retain stock
attachment configuration, stock location, and stock dimensions.
Frame may be notched for header clearance.
For FWD conversion cars, a driveshaft tunnel must be fabricated of
same-as-OEM material minimum and must be fully welded to the
as-built OEM floor. See General Regulations 7:5.

General Regulations 7:5 for Superstock Eliminator cars references the rear suspension information when relocating and installing new wheel tubs, frame, etc.

I think you build cars, so you might want to read the rule book a little closer. The floor, within the drivers compartment, must remain stock with the exception of the transmission tunnel and from the driver/passenger seat rearward.
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:59 AM   #3
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Default Re: Painting a new SS/GT G5 (Rich South)

Looks like Fred is correct on this one. I too wondered about the floor when I first saw the pictures. Anyone care to notify NHRA before this car gets to race. Its time we put a stop to cars being built anyway the builder interprets the rules. Or maybe they will just cave and change the rules.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:38 AM   #4
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Default Re: Painting a new SS/GT G5 (Rich South)

Travis?
Bruce?
Bob?
anybody out there?

When we built our '57 with almost all original flooring, Bruce laid under the thing for an hour in Denver, taking multiple pictures, first he said he liked it, then he wasn't sure, then we brought it back for more "looking", we even got an official letter of mandatory changes necessary. Finally we made some very minor changes where the dog house came down, about 36 sq inches per side. Our chassis guy said it was less original than his first design, but we complied.

Here, we seem to have a difference of opinion on legaility, howz about a NHRA tech guy chiming in?

I'm sick of comp cars w/SS on the window
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:00 AM   #5
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Looks like the photo/s of the shiny smooth "belly pans" has disappeared.... musta shown too much information for the general public.... I really though this was comp car too!
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Old 05-24-2010, 02:42 PM   #6
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Default Re: Painting a new SS/GT G5 (Rich South)

Pat and Andys car that won Best Engineered last weekend was it built the same as Richs new car.
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:10 PM   #7
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Default Re: Painting a new SS/GT G5 (Rich South)

The car is beautiful and nicely done. But, I have to agree with Randal and Fred on this. I to thought it was a comp car! I thought there had to be a resemblance of stock frame rails in the front? I know relocated for the engine and thus requires the aftermarket strut and tubular A-frame. But, it is a complete round tube chassis from front to rear!! If that is a rule that has been going on for years than I am sorry, I will stand corrected, we race a "old" super stocker that is not even allowed tubular a-frames. I know you choose your weapon but there is no compairison with these front wheel drive conversions. With that being said it is just my thoughts on this. I remember a couple yrs ago when we brought my fathers new "old" car out we have not even put the class numbers and letters on the windows yet, (they were in the front seat). We caught it in the tech lanes because of the letters!! They told us we better not use shoe polish for the lettering??? But, the new mustang comp car rolled right buy with show polish for lettering?? Shows how "off" tech can be..
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