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Old 04-11-2010, 10:52 AM   #1
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We put Froggies car together with the Dart in mind. We ran it against a few other cars in the previous month. One was a 66 or 67 silver dodge charger. That took off and didn't pay up. Thats when Heavy and crew got involved. And got us the money the next week.
If I remember right the Dart had a small block and I know it was a 4 speed. It was quick and had made a lot of money on the street.
I believe that race was heads up. I remember telling Froggy to make sure the Dart left (when 2 cars pass the starter it was a race). To make sure we didn't show what we were capable of. He almost waited too long. There was a tape recorder (early data logger) in the Dart And you didn't hear Froggy till the very end of the race.
Another shot of Froggy's '65 Belvedere in another magazine at the time. Art, that looks suspiciously like a silver '66-'67 Dodge Charger - is that the same car?

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Old 04-11-2010, 07:24 PM   #2
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Another shot of Froggy's '65 Belvedere in another magazine at the time. Art, that looks suspiciously like a silver '66-'67 Dodge Charger - is that the same car?

That is the one. And thats the race. I believe it came from Redhook.
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:33 PM   #3
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cammer427,
The 'Brooklyn Heavy' 68' Dart sure looks right. But if I recall, a
Tunnel-Ram was added. The rear wheels are properly set, indicating that it had a proper Dana rear (for the A-Body).
Joe Jill of Speedwin Automotive (Hauppauge, L.I) who prepped the
'Brookyln Heavy' Dart also had a 68' Hemi Dart (SS/BA car).
The 69' Cuda (not an original 68' Factory Hemi) Hemi was
Sox & Martins A/MP car, that Billy 'The Kid' Stepp drove.

As crazy as this sounds, only 3 (original purchased) 68' Hemi Darts ended up in the Long Island and Southern New York area.
Charlie Castaldo (4-speed), Scarsdale, NY
S & K Speed Shop (4-speed), West Babylon, L.I., NY
Joe Jill 'Speedwin' (Automatic), Hauppauge, L.I., NY
* One other that came through the area, but not accounted for
Cy Greene Dodge, Manhassett.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:25 PM   #4
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I don't know if the car was originally delivered to long island but george baptiste bought his 68 cuda in the jamaica,queens area.
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I don't know if the car was originally delivered to long island but george baptiste bought his 68 cuda in the jamaica,queens area.
George told me a funny story about how he had to hide the fact from his wife that it was a race car.He had it in a garage near where he lived in Jamaica (Queens) and told her it was a regular street driven car.Still has the car.Both he and it are in retirement.
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68' Hemi Cuda's,
No one seems to know for sure if a true original Factory 68' Hemi Cuda
was delivered to any dealer and/or racer in Long Island or Southern New York in the spring of 68'.
Some mention of Brodlieb Motors in Woodmere, L.I. of getting one, and Idlewild Motors in Springfield Gardens, also getting one. No one has any photos of these cars.
The damn Chrysler Regional Reps kept poor records. If you were close friends with a Regional Rep, you could fork over some _ _ _ _ , and
get a 68' Hemi A-Body/A-Bomb for $4200. Racers price, but you had to go out to Ferndale, Michigan to pick up the car.
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And just like the dp cars thathave an engine but have no drivetrain, even though the 68 cars were complete ,you dare not try to race it until you went over" everything. "
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George told me a funny story about how he had to hide the fact from his wife that it was a race car.He had it in a garage near where he lived in Jamaica (Queens) and told her it was a regular street driven car.Still has the car.Both he and it are in retirement.
Hi Ed, were you there at the E town Nats that misty Friday night when George almost hit the wall. Knowing how unmolested that one owner car is could anybody guess what it's worth, Paul.
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FINESPLINE,
Absolutely correct. They were not 10.60 machines 'right out of the box'
like some people think.
Engines came through with Heavy-slug 12.5-1 pistons, and the stock Hemi .475 solid lifter camshaft. If you raced the car in 68' the way it came out the factory, probably 11.60's.
Heard some of the cars left Hurst with blown engines too!.
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There was another Hemi Dart in the NYC area. Aording the "Barracuda/Dart authentication Guide" one was sold to "Manhattan Speed Shop". I don't remember such a place but in the mid-90s I built a clone car, sold it & according to the buyer Buddy Martin, Don Garlits & someone else thought it was that car. Trust me, it wasn't. The point is there were/are more mysteries floating around about these cars & the fact NYC streetracers used them fogs the stories even more & only increases their mystique and what went on back then.
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