Think about this.........

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Dinsdale

And now an opinion from a Bracket Racer who loves Stock and S/S but is becoming more and more disillusioned about the classes. My first Drag Race experience was at the age of 14 with a guy who ran a new 67 GTX in D/S. Yes, that means I'm now old! I bracket raced a bit over the years but always followed the classes. As it stands now, I can't find much "Stock" about stockers and suspect a new kid coming to the track wouldn't either. S/S get's me wound up and I even like the GT classes but draw the line at FWD conversion Comp cars being called Super Stockers. I also suspect a new person to the track wouldn't understand that either.

I've watched these classes go from balls out first to the finish cars the average person can relate to, become a game of who can manipulate their qualifying spot, hit the brakes, run to 1000', hide illegal modifications, get more and more non stock stuff approved, hide behind a soft index, complain about someone who get's you HP and on and on!! And some of you wonder why or where the new guys are going to come from. A victim of your own success comes to mind in that it's now just too expensive and too much trouble to the average guy. The sanctioning bodies are as much of the problem as anyone else but we'll all be dead and buried before they give a rat's A**

Before the shooting starts, I have everything I need to change my "bracket" car to a legal Stocker for less than $5000.00 worth of parts but can't see any reason why I'd want to. It wouldn't be a killer car but would qualify or I'd do whatever it took. I just have more fun racing with my stick shift friends.

The guy in the near lane is a Legal S/S Hemi stick car. I'm the lowley bracket racer in the far lane.............We both had fun!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/973-137_709593.htm

This says it all................

[Billy Nees]

If you really want kids to get interested in Stock and SS then take your S/SS cars to the local track and run the local program! It won't kill you and might make you a better racer. Also, make yourself available to answer questions and maybe give a helping hand. Kids nowadays don't really want to get into rules but at least I've found that by BSing with them and trying to teach them a few things they are starting to understand and take a slight interest in what I'm doing.
Remember, we all started somewhere!

[Dale Shannon]

Nice looking car great leave for the old mustang, parcel to thoses old fords, I think your 100% right it was a sport that was for fun, now most because of cost have to run it as a business, well good luck on that venture. Can anyone remember when NHRA moved most of the SS cars to COMP and the Stock cars to SS? Started over with Stock. Is time for something like that again?

[Dale Shannon]

Great Post Billy I think that would make a world of diffence, because I think some of the class racers think they are a little above some of your local racers.

[7423]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

If you really want kids to get interested in Stock and SS then take your S/SS cars to the local track and run the local program! It won't kill you and might make you a better racer. Also, make yourself available to answer questions and maybe give a helping hand. Kids nowadays don't really want to get into rules but at least I've found that by BSing with them and trying to teach them a few things they are starting to understand and take a slight interest in what I'm doing.
Remember, we all started somewhere!

Hey Billy,
Late 1970's, black 68 Mustang with my name on the door, regular at the Patch and E Town, hung with the Shadis boyz, left in 1980, been in SoCal since.
Just checking your memory..........................."We all started somewhere"
Charlie

[Billy Nees]

I remember you Charlie! Believe it or not your name has come up more than once lately as a friend of mine is doing a 94/95 Mustang and said that he "needs to get hold of that guy on the west coast".

[Billy Nees]

[QUOTE=Dale Shannon; because I think some of the class racers think they are a little above some of your local racers.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad that you said that Dale because I was thinking it!

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

Nice looking car great leave for the old mustang, parcel to thoses old fords, I think your 100% right it was a sport that was for fun, now most because of cost have to run it as a business, well good luck on that venture. Can anyone remember when NHRA moved most of the SS cars to COMP and the Stock cars to SS? Started over with Stock. Is time for something like that again?

NHRA moved stock into superstock in the early 70's. Then a year or 2 later they started stock up again stock (not stocker) cam, stock exhaust manifolds, stock (not stocker) pistons, stock fuel pump, street legal tires, etc.
The racers pushed the envelope getting one thing changed at a time Till we wound up with what we have now. If the associations would have upheld the rules. It would have have a great inpact on the costs. Do you know any one that would be getting $5000 for a legal valve job?
I hate to say it but the racers themselves are as much to blame as the associations for the current condition.

[randy wilson]

hey superstock dodge, i did not get any p.m. my address is ran.wilson @hotmail.com

[Billy Nees]

[QUOTE=art leong;158156]NHRA moved stock into superstock in the early 70's. Then a year or 2 later they started stock up again stock (not stocker) cam, stock exhaust manifolds, stock (not stocker) pistons, stock fuel pump, street legal tires, etc.

Hey Dale, Art, Maybe it's time for NHRA to look at what they did in 1972 (?) and really "shake the cage" again!