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Old 11-01-2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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and also the K/SA 273/235 67 Valiant post sedan of Jeff Seligmann and the late Joe Kenney. Both were taken at the Summernationals in 71.


First time I've ever seen one of these in Stock!

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Old 11-02-2009, 05:13 AM   #2
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Are we sure we don't want to change the name of this thread to;
Mysterys, Myths and Misconceptions..
This thread looks like an Italian Kitchen.
Many hands stirring the wooden spoon in the Pot-Of-Sauce (or as some
say; Gravy).
At least in the end, the Sauce will be perfect.
More to come.
Bill Rodik on your post #171 and Mopar68, what are you doing adding a
nice Jewish-boy like Jeff Seligmann to this thread. Oy vey, we need
some Bagels this morning...
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:49 AM   #3
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Well, since the Seligmann car was from your general area, I decided to throw it in. Looks like his drag racing career was short-lived!

As far as the "Italian Kitchen" scenario, what better way to stir the sauce a bit more than to add a shot I took of Carmine Rotunda at E-Town at the beginning of the Pro Stock craze. All I can say about the fashion in vogue at that time is "Yipes Stripes".

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P.S. That is Bobby Yowell with his back to the camera.
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are we sure we don't want to change the name of this thread to;
mysterys, myths and misconceptions..
This thread looks like an italian kitchen.
Many hands stirring the wooden spoon in the pot-of-sauce (or as some
say; gravy).
At least in the end, the sauce will be perfect.
More to come.
Bill rodik on your post #171 and mopar68, what are you doing adding a
nice jewish-boy like jeff seligmann to this thread. Oy vey, we need
some bagels this morning...
paul c
Paul, I like your sense of humor.

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:31 PM   #5
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JIMI "V",
Only good intentions here. Just trying to figure out where the 68' Dart
my father had for a brief period ended up. I am trying to back-track all avenues, including the Mystery Mount Kisco car. Can't put my finger on it,
but one of these Dart's may have been at Bill Davitt's shop on Adams Street, Bedford Hills for a short time (75' or 76'). I was there alot during that time picking-up or dropping off cylinder heads (foreign stuff).
I'm really going out-on-a-limb. Can't be sure.
Paul

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Old 11-04-2009, 03:38 AM   #6
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Mopar68,
Had to add a little humor, to break-up the monotony.
Bill Rodik, on post #197. Are you sure, that looks like Gregg Allman with the long blonde hair, talking to Sonny, Elvis Pressley's bodyguard.
Thank You, Very Much
Before more Hemi stuff. I forgot to add. Yes, Jeff Selligman. Ran at
Dover, same time as us. Back in 70' or 71' that car ran in J/SA, while we were in K/S with the 273 Cuda. The Valiant was about 120 lbs. lighter,
and ran in one class lower. In 72' it was re-classified to K/SA, we went up to L/S. That photo in (National Dragster) must be from 72'.
Jeff had an speed parts store in Danbury, A & S Performance. Also, liked food, alot of it. Nice guy, very large. If I recall, the car ran around 14.50's or so. Won quite a few trophies at Dover, no competition in that class. Only a 66' Belvedere 383/275HP 2-barrel (12.00 - 12.49 wt/hp
factor). Not too many of those 67' 273/235HP cars made.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:29 AM   #7
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It is definitely Bobby Yowell, and not Allman, Johnny Winter, Edgar Winter, or Ted Nugent (The Motor City Madman). I have photos of his car from that day (I wonder if he still has those pants hanging in the closet). And I think this may have been the time period when Brooklyn Heavy was involved in various race activities. I had heard a story about a match race at E-Town (as part of the two cars on time trials), with Carmine driving, against another group, winner take all. The rules of the race were "No Rules". Apparently, when both cars were staged, Carmine left before the tree started down. I was told that the interpretation of the "No Rules" meant that there was no need to wait for the green. As far as I know, the loser paid off.

You are right, this has nothing to do with 68 Hemi SS cars, but since I have no more vintage 68 photos to post, I had to "stir the sauce" some more! LOL!

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Old 11-04-2009, 11:47 AM   #8
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I almost forgot, but there is one tidbit I would like to throw in regarding earlier references to Manhattan Speed Shop.

The owner, Joe Bello, and I did some business a few years ago (vintage Mopar and other OEM parts), and he has OEM and speed inventory from when he operated Worth Auto Parts, in addition to Manhattan Speed on Canal St, and I believe Bronx Speed as well. It is all in storage now in the Bronx, and he sells periodically on eBay.

Perhaps he could provide some history on their involvement on a 68 car.

You should be able to reach him at one of the following numbers:

718-589-2979

516-746-6744

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