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Old 07-13-2009, 10:14 PM   #1
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Default Re: AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn

Does anyone know what John Shaul's best time was in AA/SA
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:27 PM   #2
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From what I can remember I think John Shaul has gone some 9.70's in AA/SA?
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:37 PM   #3
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So far this year Shaul has gone a best of 10.010 in AA/SA. Jim
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:03 PM   #4
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John's best run this year was a 10.01 @ the Winters, don't have a mph. He ran 9.810 at the Virginia Nat'ls last year and according to Nitro Joe .

Alan according to Nitro's stats the Sorensen's pass at Woodburn he outperformed over HALF of the SS/DA cars this year and over a THIRD of the SS/CA cars and 2 of the SS/BA cars this year. Even you have to admit that is a little hard to swallow after looking at the Stats.

Hear no evil, speak no evil and see no evil .

You guys need to give it a rest, Big Ed ain't going away.

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Old 07-14-2009, 07:33 AM   #5
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Alan according to Nitro's stats the Sorensen's pass at Woodburn he outperformed over HALF of the SS/DA cars this year and over a THIRD of the SS/CA cars and 2 of the SS/BA cars this year. Even you have to admit that is a little hard to swallow after looking at the Stats.
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You should consider several factors when looking at that data.

1. How many of them have been in good air?
2. How many of them have tried to set a record?
3. How many of them have tried to win class?
4. How many of them were running a heads up run?

If the answer to question 1 is not yes, then the rest do not matter. If the answer to question 1 is yes, then you can look at questions 2, 3, and 4.

If number 2 applies, look at how close they came, or if they got it, as well as whether or not it was at "minimum" when they set it.

If number 3 or 4 applies, you have to look at whether or not they had real competition.

But number 1 has to apply in all cases.

But again, why would you compare the fastest Stock Eliminator car to the average Super Stock car? It just isn't a fair or valid comparison. You never compare the best to the average to see if the best is cheating. If you're going to compare the record holding Stock Eliminator car to a Super Stock car, you should compare it to the record setting Super Stock car, and NOT an average Super Stock car.

Comparing data is fine, but in order for it to mean anything at all, you have to make a valid comparison between valid data sets, otherwise all you've done is jumble up a bunch of numbers and reach an invalid conclusion.

Further, I notice few are saying anything about the fact that several AA/SA and AA/S cars have run in the low 9.70 zone. Not to mention at least one or two claim to have run in the 9.60 zone in legal trim, one was here on this board 2-3 months ago. A couple of those cars that have run a low 9.70 have been called "paper cars", but no one has claimed they have ported heads and a ported intake.
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:52 AM   #6
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Alan

I was just reporting on the Stats and how they compare. You have to decided for yourself, I don't have a dog in this fight. But I really do enjoy the entertainment.

If you people don't realize it by now.......Big Ed is just having fun with you. You know he really is a funny guy.

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Old 07-14-2009, 09:24 AM   #7
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Seattle entry: 6633 SS/CA Joe Sorensen Woodburn OR '69 Camaro Chev 427 IRRGON MOTORS/BAM
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:49 AM   #8
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L Petersen is missing Ed and Fred's point. IT"S NOT ABOUT BEING TORN DOWN BY A TECH INSPECTOR. IT'S ABOUT WHETHER THE HEADS AND INTAKE ARE PURE PURE PURE AND UNTOUCHED OUT OF THE OF BOX BESIDES A VALVE JOB.

TEARING AN ENGINE DOWN MEANS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IN REGARDS TO ED AND FRED'S POINT............................................. ..........
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:01 PM   #9
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Oh No the point is we dont answer to Fred and Ed !
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