HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-08-2024, 05:19 PM   #21
Frank Castros
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The Lowcountry.
Posts: 2,799
Likes: 2,280
Liked 2,372 Times in 865 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

Everyone goes a little "extra" to get an advantage but this is blatant in your face cheating.

1320, you would be the first one screaming if you where in the other lane.
Frank Castros is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2024, 07:10 PM   #22
Joseph Lily
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2024
Posts: 15
Likes: 1
Liked 37 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

This right here is the reason you don't cheat. You get caught, your past and present will be tarnished, forever.

The Stanfields had everything to lose and very little to gain. Greg's world championships and everything that family has done up until this point is questionable. Its not a question of if they cheated, merely a how. And I don't want to hear NHRA's fault as the rule didnt state diameter, just number of teeth. Its not like they didn't know what they were doing was illegal. Blatant cheating

Rest In Peace Howard Stanfield, I'm sure after this your lying face down. Tarnishing the Stanfield name for history. Very sad
Joseph Lily is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2024, 07:19 PM   #23
1320racer
VIP Member
 
1320racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,140
Likes: 104
Liked 574 Times in 282 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Castros View Post
1320, you would be the first one screaming if you where in the other lane.
Wrong, I'd be cheating too like the many that are.
1320racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2024, 07:27 PM   #24
Frank Castros
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The Lowcountry.
Posts: 2,799
Likes: 2,280
Liked 2,372 Times in 865 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320racer View Post
Wrong, I'd be cheating too like the many that are.
No doubt, because you're incapable to winning straight up.
Frank Castros is offline   Reply With Quote
Liked
Old 09-08-2024, 07:28 PM   #25
Larry Hill
Live Reporter
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Hickory, Ky
Posts: 10,472
Likes: 1,761
Liked 10,145 Times in 2,103 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

I would think the folks in question would be out for a year with a $25,000 fine that said we don?t want you back!!
__________________
IHM Used Parts
https://ihmusedparts.com
888-821-1817
Larry Hill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2024, 07:35 PM   #26
1320racer
VIP Member
 
1320racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,140
Likes: 104
Liked 574 Times in 282 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Castros View Post
No doubt, because you're incapable to winning straight up.
You can say the same about many of your heros and competitors
1320racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2024, 08:07 PM   #27
Bobby DiDomenico
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 916
Likes: 93
Liked 92 Times in 48 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

Quote:
Originally Posted by 340Cuda View Post
That is a very good question.

From what the Turks said the pulley had the right number of teeth but was a larger diameter. A pulley that they had fabricated. They said it also had a cover on it to make it harder to see.

No one has been able to tell me if the infraction was caught before racing, during or after.

It would seem like NHRA needs to modify the rules to set a diameter as well as a tooth count.

Bill
There must be a part number and corresponding spec for the sprocket right? This is amazing.
Bobby DiDomenico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2024, 09:08 PM   #28
Adub464Q
Member
 
Adub464Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 215
Likes: 35
Liked 413 Times in 78 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

While I applaud the tech dept for finally doing SOMETHING. I am disappointed in the decision for some simple fines and some points.

They were allowed to fix the issue and continue with the event (my impression of the releases on NHRA race).

If this were any common sportsman racer and not associated with a name in sportsman racing, the outcome would be different.

Last year, a D7 sportsman racer at Dallas won first round of the Allstars at Dallas and was DQed for a wheelbase infraction. Why wasn?t this racer allowed to ?correct the issue??
__________________
Austin Williams
3 SG
464Q STK SC

Last edited by Adub464Q; 09-08-2024 at 09:10 PM. Reason: Grammar
Adub464Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2024, 07:03 AM   #29
Kevin Panzino
Senior Member
 
Kevin Panzino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 547
Likes: 272
Liked 620 Times in 120 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

The comments about the pulley having the right number of teeth but a different diameter doesn?t make sense because you have to have a certain pitch between teeth to match the pitch of the belt. So if the jackshaft pulley had 32 teeth, and the blower had 32 ( I don?t even know if that was spec at the time, just an example) and you made the jack shaft pulley larger diameter you would need a different pitch belt. And then you also need to make the blower pulley the same diameter to match the pitch of the belt. So nothing at all gained?
Kevin Panzino is offline   Reply With Quote
Liked
Old 09-09-2024, 07:38 AM   #30
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,384
Likes: 3,412
Liked 7,318 Times in 1,644 Posts
Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino View Post
The comments about the pulley having the right number of teeth but a different diameter doesn?t make sense because you have to have a certain pitch between teeth to match the pitch of the belt. So if the jackshaft pulley had 32 teeth, and the blower had 32 and you made the jack shaft pulley larger diameter you would need a different pitch belt. And then you also need to make the blower pulley the same diameter to match the pitch of the belt. So nothing at all gained?
I'm guessing that it would depend on how "tight" you could get the teeth on the belt to hug the jackshaft pulley and how "loose" you could get the teeth to hug the blower pulley and still work. I can't imagine there being a great difference in diameter but........
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm OK..........it's everybody else.
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.