COPO Horsepower adjustments

bsimms89 · 11-06-2018, 11:20 AM

After the run at vegas this weekend the 580hp supercharged 350 in the COPO's has been increased from 580hp to 617hp, so the 580 hp is actually now rated higher than the 590hp variant. The 590hp engine is currently rated at 616hp.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...276&zoneid=132

http://nhraracer.com/content/general...700&zoneid=132

Mike Mans · 11-06-2018, 11:27 AM

If I'm not mistaken the FS/AA cars are actually able to run at a lighter weight than the FS/XX cars. So it was probably a matter of time before any of the competitive FS/XX cars ran at any event and went that fast. They could probably all run 7.9's at sea level in FS/AA weight, right? Certainly stinks when someone hits your combo, but there are so many fast new cars now days that I'm sure this won't be the last time they are hit.

bsimms89 · 11-06-2018, 12:07 PM

Now the FS/AA weight is more than FS/XX after the hit, with the 580hp it'll have to run at 3565, and the 590hp at 3558, where the showdown cars were lowered from 3550 to 3525. I just find it amusing the 580 engine is now higher than the 590, also if they get hit again I dont think they can add much more horsepower, otherwise it'll go over 3,600lbs which is the limit for the cages, they'd almost have to just lower the index for the class. The horsepower can't be rated over 623hp without putting the cars over 3,600lbs, (624hp*5.5+170=3,602Lbs)
It doesn't hurt me much as I had my car setup at the showdown weight so I'm already pretty much there. Just curious to see what another hit will cause

Jeff Stout · 11-06-2018, 12:25 PM

Was this the motor built by Eric Jones in CA?

bsimms89 · 11-06-2018, 12:37 PM

It was the Mountain View sponsored COPO, they are claiming it is a 100% original motor that came in the car from chevy and they ran at 3415lbs on a run of 8.19 in Vegas. They are saying it was only a tune that got them there and they will be building a blueprinted motor for FS/XX next year. I only know this from facebook so I am by no means an expert on what they've done with the car or who is involved.

jmcarter · 11-06-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bsimms89

It was the Mountain View sponsored COPO, they are claiming it is a 100% original motor that came in the car from chevy and they ran at 3415lbs on a run of 8.19 in Vegas. They are saying it was only a tune that got them there and they will be building a blueprinted motor for FS/XX next year. I only know this from facebook so I am by no means an expert on what they've done with the car or who is involved.

Led astray by Facebook? Inconceivable!

TinSoldier 3215 · 11-06-2018, 02:24 PM

Hey Jeff. They call him THE CALIFORNIA MISSILE MAN. And there's plenty more power from where that came from.

Erik Jones · 11-06-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Was this the motor built by Eric Jones in CA?

No, The engine is straight from GM "Duncan Michael" who ever that is should be proud if it... he built a good engine. The car is as it was delivered to the team with some additional Racepak stuff. Bob Wareham is crew chief and in charge of getting it down the track, I am tuning it and Dustin Lee will be handling the engine side once we start on that. All that was done was a proper tune up and some suspension work, the first time the valve covers came off was in tear down.

ss3011 · 11-06-2018, 05:27 PM

Duncan works in the GM Performance Center where they build all the COPO engines .

Erik Jones · 11-06-2018, 06:45 PM

Well, Give him a High 5 for us. I think its actually cool that you can buy a 28K engine that will go 8 flat without doing anything to it. That is the true meaning of factory stock.

11-06-2018, 11:20 AM	#1
bsimms89 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 69 Likes: 29 Liked 69 Times in 18 Posts	COPO Horsepower adjustments After the run at vegas this weekend the 580hp supercharged 350 in the COPO's has been increased from 580hp to 617hp, so the 580 hp is actually now rated higher than the 590hp variant. The 590hp engine is currently rated at 616hp. http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...276&zoneid=132 http://nhraracer.com/content/general...700&zoneid=132

11-06-2018, 11:27 AM	#2
Mike Mans Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 177 Likes: 21 Liked 299 Times in 48 Posts	Re: COPO Horsepower adjustments If I'm not mistaken the FS/AA cars are actually able to run at a lighter weight than the FS/XX cars. So it was probably a matter of time before any of the competitive FS/XX cars ran at any event and went that fast. They could probably all run 7.9's at sea level in FS/AA weight, right? Certainly stinks when someone hits your combo, but there are so many fast new cars now days that I'm sure this won't be the last time they are hit.

11-06-2018, 12:07 PM	#3
bsimms89 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 69 Likes: 29 Liked 69 Times in 18 Posts	Re: COPO Horsepower adjustments Now the FS/AA weight is more than FS/XX after the hit, with the 580hp it'll have to run at 3565, and the 590hp at 3558, where the showdown cars were lowered from 3550 to 3525. I just find it amusing the 580 engine is now higher than the 590, also if they get hit again I dont think they can add much more horsepower, otherwise it'll go over 3,600lbs which is the limit for the cages, they'd almost have to just lower the index for the class. The horsepower can't be rated over 623hp without putting the cars over 3,600lbs, (624hp5.5+170=3,602Lbs) It doesn't hurt me much as I had my car setup at the showdown weight so I'm already pretty much there. Just curious to see what another hit will cause Last edited by bsimms89; 11-06-2018 at 12:13 PM.*

11-06-2018, 12:25 PM	#4
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,486 Likes: 66 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: COPO Horsepower adjustments Was this the motor built by Eric Jones in CA?

11-06-2018, 12:37 PM	#5
bsimms89 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 69 Likes: 29 Liked 69 Times in 18 Posts	Re: COPO Horsepower adjustments It was the Mountain View sponsored COPO, they are claiming it is a 100% original motor that came in the car from chevy and they ran at 3415lbs on a run of 8.19 in Vegas. They are saying it was only a tune that got them there and they will be building a blueprinted motor for FS/XX next year. I only know this from facebook so I am by no means an expert on what they've done with the car or who is involved.

11-06-2018, 02:24 PM	#7
TinSoldier 3215 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bulington, Ky Posts: 359 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: COPO Horsepower adjustments Hey Jeff. They call him THE CALIFORNIA MISSILE MAN. And there's plenty more power from where that came from.

11-06-2018, 05:27 PM	#9
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 908 Likes: 70 Liked 238 Times in 113 Posts	Re: COPO Horsepower adjustments Duncan works in the GM Performance Center where they build all the COPO engines .

11-06-2018, 06:45 PM	#10
Erik Jones Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 61 Likes: 1 Liked 47 Times in 6 Posts	Re: COPO Horsepower adjustments Well, Give him a High 5 for us. I think its actually cool that you can buy a 28K engine that will go 8 flat without doing anything to it. That is the true meaning of factory stock. __________________ Erik Jones