Crate Motor Class

[KEN BUGAJ]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Bingo! Now die thread, die!

Stock was diluted in the late 70's when they changed the cam & valve spring rules. There's no more stock,. It's modified stock.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ

I've had a couple pretty good crate motor car's and I can tell you it runs around $10,000 to build a fairly good one. Not the $15,000 plus for an NHRA small block. What's the difference, it's racing and supposed to be fun. I don't understand the hate I read here. If NHRA let's crate motors in is it going to cost you anything? NO, then why all the hate ! We're not here long enough to worry about the small things in life.

No hate here. You may remember that I ran with the IHRA for quite some time. I ran some goofy combos from Pure Stock to Stock GT. It was a lot of fun. I even started to build a front wheel drive crate motor car until Baker killed my combination. Things began to go down hill when they started doing the double headers and turned it into a bracket race. Before that the car counts were pretty good around here.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by j gardiner

The rich guys don't want to run their $120,000 crate motor cars against $20,000 crate motor cars simple as that.

How dumb. There are lots of low buck cars running NHRA. I don't remember anyone complaining about them.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

You know it is so hard to have a rational conversation with folks like you.
The reason IHRA dropped Class Racing is because too many racers did not support IHRA's Class Racing.

Cars that could run both NHRA and IHRA didn't show up.
So much for that argument !

Seems when Mr. Bader ran IHRA it did well.
He moved on and things changed.

IHRA was quite innovative bringing in new types of classes.
Classes that NHRA glommed on to.

NHRA, NMCA, IHRA, AHRA can all do what they want.
They are all competing for our business.

It was the fickleness of Racers that stiffed armed IHRA Class Racing.
If you had shown up there would be IHRA Class racing.
It is a Lost Opportunity because of your behavior and attitudes.
You did not support the sport !!

D

No Dingbat Dan its hard to have a conversation with you! IHRA invented those classes to try to get people to come race with them plain and simple. They thought they could fill races with glorified street cars like yours but instead they ran off the few class racers they had left. No 1/4 racing, no contingency, no nothing was the demise of IHRA amongst other things. Yep I didn't go the last 4 years because I was busy racing somewhere else!
I support the sport where I want to race and don't really give a damn about what you think. Many of the same people who thought IHRA was more racer friendly, or didn't want to take an extra day off to go race, people that race NHRA are a bunch of snobs with big toterhomes blah blah are some of the same people who want these cars added now that they have no place to play.
Last comment I will make on this useless thread.

[X-TECH MAN]

[QUOTE=KEN BUGAJ;556369]Stock was diluted in the late 70's when they changed the can & valve spring rules. There's no more stock,. It's modified stock.[/QUOTE

Ken......Stock as we knew it died in 1985. That was when NHRA allowed any valve spring pressures and any duration and overlap specs.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Last comment I will make on this useless thread.

Thank goodness !!!!!!!!

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by HR9121

No Dingbat Dan its hard to have a conversation with you! IHRA invented those classes to try to get people to come race with them plain and simple. They thought they could fill races with glorified street cars like yours but instead they ran off the few class racers they had left. No 1/4 racing, no contingency, no nothing was the demise of IHRA amongst other things. Yep I didn't go the last 4 years because I was busy racing somewhere else!
I support the sport where I want to race and don't really give a damn about what you think. Many of the same people who thought IHRA was more racer friendly, or didn't want to take an extra day off to go race, people that race NHRA are a bunch of snobs with big toterhomes blah blah are some of the same people who want these cars added now that they have no place to play.
Last comment I will make on this useless thread.

There you go again being insulting and immature comments!
IHRA failed because of what I wrote.
If you took it personal that is not my problem!
What I had to say was clear!

D

[j gardiner]

How dumb. There are lots of low buck cars running NHRA. I don't remember anyone complaining about them.
Then you don't have a problem with crate motor cars running in NHRA, or do they need to be $120,000 crate motor cars like yours. Because other than the price they are the same thing.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

There you go again being insulting and immature comments!
IHRA failed because of what I wrote.
If you took it personal that is not my problem!
What I had to say was clear!

D

I took it personal because you said "you did not support the sport". I do support the sport I just did not support IHRA. See you at the races when you get a legal combo.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by j gardiner

......Then you don't have a problem with crate motor cars running in NHRA.....

Nope. I actually thanked some senior NHRA people for giving my crate motor friends a place to race this year.

.....or do they need to be $120,000 crate motor cars like yours.

That's a special comment. Are we a little butt hurt?

Because other than the price they are the same thing.

I disagree. But, you are welcome to your opinion.