Redman petition - Page 2

Alan Roehrich · 02-10-2017, 12:07 PM

Bill Redman Floyd was probably the best friend of the racers that NHRA had on their staff anywhere.

That said, I get the impression that the people above the division tech level at NHRA do not know, understand, or give a damn that racers are family, and that guys like Redman, Travis Miller, Dave Ley, and others are a part of our family.

Sportsman drag racing is, for the most part, a family sport. What they will eventually discover is that when they continue to screw over the family that is sportsman drag racing, their little world will cease to exist, because they certainly do not have the slightest idea how to attract new people to drag racing. The only thing bringing in new people is the family, that brings their youth to the sport.

Michael Beard · 02-10-2017, 12:10 PM

Just another straw on the camel's back. NHRA doesn't care, because the camel's back never breaks.

I would take Redman over anyone in the Ivory Tower in a heartbeat.

Jeff Niceswanger · 02-10-2017, 12:19 PM

Reddog was on the verge of quitting anyway . His legs are killin him...They might be doing him a favor

Casey Miles · 02-10-2017, 12:36 PM

Actions talk stronger then words, have all sportsman racers go in to staging, lock their vehicles and then walk away. See what the NHRA staff does then? I went to Suffolk to set the record with my Camaro, after making the back up run, NHRA said that they weren't allowing record setting. So,as my turn I put my car on the scale at Suffolk race way and then locked it, went to the tower and discussed it with officials about no record setting. We set records.

Casey Miles

Gary Summers · 02-10-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I could be wrong with this but I was under the impression that Redman pissed off a few of the big shots up in the Ivory Tower. If that IS the case, it will take more than a petition to get him back.

Billy he just takes up for us because he knows who pays the bills for those people in the ivory tower that don't give a flying flip about us peons that they are better than us Gary

Gary Summers · 02-10-2017, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Bill Redman Floyd was probably the best friend of the racers that NHRA had on their staff anywhere.

That said, I get the impression that the people above the division tech level at NHRA do not know, understand, or give a damn that racers are family, and that guys like Redman, Travis Miller, Dave Ley, and others are a part of our family.

Sportsman drag racing is, for the most part, a family sport. What they will eventually discover is that when they continue to screw over the family that is sportsman drag racing, their little world will cease to exist, because they certainly do not have the slightest idea how to attract new people to drag racing. The only thing bringing in new people is the family, that brings their youth to the sport.

. Amen to that

Alan Roehrich · 02-10-2017, 01:24 PM

Gary,
For whatever it is worth, if you do a search, there are a couple of websites that host online petitions, they'll allow you to set up a petition and give you a link you can post and distribute via email. I have no idea how you get the results to NHRA, or who at NHRA you would get them to.

jmcarter · 02-10-2017, 03:08 PM

Alan, you know very well the NHRA is all about the family, specifically the JFR and DSR families but a few others to 'spice' up things...apparently you build a huge youth following by letting them smell nitro in the pits, selling them T shirts, etc. There must be a connection to the instant gratification mentality that runs rampant today and of course we know that's not an identifiable demographic amongst the sportsman ranks. Don't have a clue as to the NHRA hierarchy but there must be some family connections regarding hires within the IT department, marketing, etc. so based on all that I'd have to say they are very family oriented.

From all appearances Redman and his ilk are too closely associated with "our" family rather than the NHRA family, hence his persona non grata status.

Chuck Beach · 02-10-2017, 05:48 PM

Redman is as good as they get, won't be the same at races without him.

63corvette · 02-10-2017, 07:00 PM

From my understanding this all started with Redman last year and now this year it is not any better. I talked to him at Las Vegas last fall and that was his story. He was the best at the parking plan than anyone I know and I am old.
I also understand Harold who usually runs the front of the staging lanes is on a 4 race suspension.
NHRA just does not understand any of the Sportsman racers and does not care to understand any of us.
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

02-10-2017, 12:07 PM	#11
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,105 Likes: 1,561 Liked 1,788 Times in 408 Posts	Re: Redman petition Bill Redman Floyd was probably the best friend of the racers that NHRA had on their staff anywhere. That said, I get the impression that the people above the division tech level at NHRA do not know, understand, or give a damn that racers are family, and that guys like Redman, Travis Miller, Dave Ley, and others are a part of our family. Sportsman drag racing is, for the most part, a family sport. What they will eventually discover is that when they continue to screw over the family that is sportsman drag racing, their little world will cease to exist, because they certainly do not have the slightest idea how to attract new people to drag racing. The only thing bringing in new people is the family, that brings their youth to the sport. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

02-10-2017, 12:10 PM	#12
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Redman petition Just another straw on the camel's back. NHRA doesn't care, because the camel's back never breaks. I would take Redman over anyone in the Ivory Tower in a heartbeat. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

02-10-2017, 12:19 PM	#13
Jeff Niceswanger Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 890 Likes: 679 Liked 1,019 Times in 367 Posts	Re: Redman petition Reddog was on the verge of quitting anyway . His legs are killin him...They might be doing him a favor __________________ Jeff Niceswanger 3740 SS

02-10-2017, 12:36 PM	#14
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Redman petition Actions talk stronger then words, have all sportsman racers go in to staging, lock their vehicles and then walk away. See what the NHRA staff does then? I went to Suffolk to set the record with my Camaro, after making the back up run, NHRA said that they weren't allowing record setting. So,as my turn I put my car on the scale at Suffolk race way and then locked it, went to the tower and discussed it with officials about no record setting. We set records. Casey Miles

02-10-2017, 01:24 PM	#17
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,105 Likes: 1,561 Liked 1,788 Times in 408 Posts	Re: Redman petition Gary, For whatever it is worth, if you do a search, there are a couple of websites that host online petitions, they'll allow you to set up a petition and give you a link you can post and distribute via email. I have no idea how you get the results to NHRA, or who at NHRA you would get them to. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

02-10-2017, 03:08 PM	#18
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,293 Likes: 2,367 Liked 3,169 Times in 970 Posts	Re: Redman petition Alan, you know very well the NHRA is all about the family, specifically the JFR and DSR families but a few others to 'spice' up things...apparently you build a huge youth following by letting them smell nitro in the pits, selling them T shirts, etc. There must be a connection to the instant gratification mentality that runs rampant today and of course we know that's not an identifiable demographic amongst the sportsman ranks. Don't have a clue as to the NHRA hierarchy but there must be some family connections regarding hires within the IT department, marketing, etc. so based on all that I'd have to say they are very family oriented. From all appearances Redman and his ilk are too closely associated with "our" family rather than the NHRA family, hence his persona non grata status. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

02-10-2017, 05:48 PM	#19
Chuck Beach Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 664 Likes: 12 Liked 58 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Redman petition Redman is as good as they get, won't be the same at races without him. __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK

02-10-2017, 07:00 PM	#20
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Redman petition From my understanding this all started with Redman last year and now this year it is not any better. I talked to him at Las Vegas last fall and that was his story. He was the best at the parking plan than anyone I know and I am old. I also understand Harold who usually runs the front of the staging lanes is on a 4 race suspension. NHRA just does not understand any of the Sportsman racers and does not care to understand any of us. My 2 Cents Rick Cates Canyon, TX