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Old 09-09-2012, 09:54 AM   #11
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Doesn't NHRA allow some aftermarket/replacement parts in stock? Or just SS
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:57 AM   #12
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Doesn't NHRA allow some aftermarket/replacement parts in stock? Or just SS
Yeah and doing that it's getting closer and closer to a crate motor.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:06 AM   #13
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Outside of division 9 there is not really that many crate motor cars out there. I would venture to say less than 50 total. Probably more CJ's and DP's being raced than Crate Motors.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:42 PM   #14
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I'm with Mike. Why would anybody paint themselves into a corner building a car that can only run with one group? IHRA may not be around for ever. I hope they are, but who knows?
I hardly think building an IHRA crate car would be "painting myself into a corner". Where I live im close to alot of IHRA tracks....my home track is NHRA sanctioned but the chances of having a points race is slim and none....and really if I have to sit out and watch for one weekend instead of digging through piles of garbage cast iron intakes, leaky qjets and rotten heads I will. The thought of building a traditional NHRA stocker has crossed my mind with the possibility of having a 3 speed in a 68 SBC combo but I need to have it in writing before I start. At the end of the day, most people dont undertand the whole concept of the crate class anyways. Most will assume its a tuned up dealer piece like they run in the DIRT series but unfortunatly its not. Everything in the engine is the same as a traditional stocker except for the heads and intake....for me a trip to the wreckers will yield me a set of 96 and up vortec heads that will actually work well out of the box....im only 32 but the last time I looked I never seen a 68 camaro/impala/chevelle/ect at the wrecking yard with a 350/295hp engine thats was carb to pan that would be salvagable or afordable. And no the index and the HP ratings are not all that soft...for example I run a 330hp vortec crate combo in H....3305 is my minimum and the index is 11.95...ive been picking at this combination for 5 years now and after finding and using every single ounce of HP (STOCK ELIMINATOR) and can go 1 under the index....or more if need be...not bragging by any means but I do work on my stuff alot....ask my wife....LOL. If you are surrounded by IHRA tracks I would definitly be building an IHRA crate motor....and hopefully some day NHRA will alow us to run as well.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:02 PM   #15
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Donald Barnes(Worked for Jeff and Charlie Taylor for years) told me you don't want crate motors in NHRA. I asked why. He said your pockets aint deep enough son. I said I don't understand. He said all it takes is for one of those NHRA guys decide they want a crate motor and you're done. You will never outrun them. LOL
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:24 PM   #16
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Donald Barnes(Worked for Jeff and Charlie Taylor for years) told me you don't want crate motors in NHRA. I asked why. He said your pockets aint deep enough son. I said I don't understand. He said all it takes is for one of those NHRA guys decide they want a crate motor and you're done. You will never outrun them. LOL
I say bring it
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:50 PM   #17
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It doesn't matter how fast they might be if you don't run them heads-up! Several crate motor classes to choose from and crate motors can get HP added to them also!
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:07 PM   #18
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Random thoughts...

NHRA skipped crate motors and went straight to crate cars.

I know some folks who had pestered IHRA about allowing crate motors in Super Stock GT many years ago, but the answer was always no.

It all seems kind of silly, after reading all of the "superceded parts" threads.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:31 PM   #19
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I agree with ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^! the powers that be should have taken the new cars and crate motor stuff and formed stock F/X. The aaa,bbb, and ccc classes crack me up. But I think that was done cause how the cj's, dp's and copo's are advertised and sold.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:14 AM   #20
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I say bring it
X-2 Brandon Why push it and cheat,,
Most of the crate motor cars and I say MOST have out of the box cyl. heads & intake
with a valve job, new springs and that's about it.
That's the good point,, Not spending $3,000 to have all the tricks done on a set of heads and intake.
That was Mike Baker & Terry Bell's idea of getting more people into stock with out
spending a ton of money.........
Remember crate motor's can get hit bye the Horse Power God .....
I know people cheat ! I picked up a crate motor car a couple year's ago from a Div. 3 racer and when we went through the car we found a delay box ! WHY !!!
These guy's are not racer's just cheaters !!!!

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