New Guy

Dave Borror · 11-28-2010, 09:55 PM

Tried to stay away from racing for the last 8 years,but had to come back. I raced modified and stock for 20 years Div.3 out of the Buckeye state.My new project is a 97 Camaro 3.8 Natural class o/sa.Hope to have it done late 2011

Winklovic · 11-28-2010, 10:33 PM

There is no cure. Welcome back and keep us updated on the car's construction.

Dennis P Chapman · 11-28-2010, 10:53 PM

Good luck with the new car.

NORMAN BARNARD · 11-28-2010, 11:09 PM

Dave, i was looking at a similar combination but useing a 98 f/bird but found no accepted connecting rods (yet) along with virtually no one with experience with these heads. I may still try this combo but as of this time it's on the back burner. Pm me if you make any headway in these area's...........norm

Jeff Lee · 11-29-2010, 01:30 AM

Just submit to NHRA a suitable replacement rod and anybody can do a cylinder head; it's just an air passageway.

Alan Roehrich · 11-29-2010, 02:02 AM

The 98 Firebird is better, and you can put an LT-1 in it if you want to go faster later.

There are a couple of Firebirds running the 3.8, and the guy I talked to was bragging about the heads.

Jeff is correct, find someone who makes them, and have them submit one to get it approved. Same with the pistons.

You need to find a 200 Metric transmission that bolts to that block, anything else is too much and too heavy.

Chris Barnes · 11-29-2010, 11:32 AM

I'm sorry to hear that you couldn't stay away--that means what I've always suspected is true--class racing is like Malaria or Herpes, never goes away. At least you're working on a combination that won't get stomped by the DPs and CJs. Welcome back and good luck!

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
C/SA 6621

Ed Wright · 11-29-2010, 01:33 PM

'93/'97 were LT1s also.

Dave Borror · 11-29-2010, 05:23 PM

Thanks guys,I like the odd ball stuff. The 3.8 being such a stout V6 from the factory. GM did their work on the motors. FI is going to be the new learning cuve for me.Carb guy all my life.Yea ,JE is only the replacement piston 700.0) a set. I have though about the T200,but the 460lE has such a low 1st gear 3:08 I believe.I am hopeing to keep the rotating mass down and I want to stay with the 10 bolt and a 4:56 is the biggest I can get into that housing.(Before I go to a 12 Bolt) I have access to all the equipment to to do my motor ,and have a guy who can trick the 460LE.And I have access to a shop that can fab me just about anything.Thanks again, and I'l keep progress posted.

Ed Wright · 11-29-2010, 06:06 PM

Like Alan said, you want a 200, not a 4L60E. Not a matter of it living.

11-28-2010, 09:55 PM	#1
Dave Borror Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hide Away Hills Ohio Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New Guy Tried to stay away from racing for the last 8 years,but had to come back. I raced modified and stock for 20 years Div.3 out of the Buckeye state.My new project is a 97 Camaro 3.8 Natural class o/sa.Hope to have it done late 2011 Attached Thumbnails

11-28-2010, 10:33 PM	#2
Winklovic Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Posts: 270 Likes: 3 Liked 29 Times in 8 Posts	Re: New Guy There is no cure. Welcome back and keep us updated on the car's construction. __________________ Brent Mazur Winnipeg, Manitoba

11-28-2010, 10:53 PM	#3
Dennis P Chapman VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toms River NJ Posts: 1,594 Likes: 415 Liked 53 Times in 25 Posts	Re: New Guy Good luck with the new car. __________________ Dennis P Chapman 1904 STK NHRA National Record Holder Car Owner.

11-28-2010, 11:09 PM	#4
NORMAN BARNARD Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: EL PASO, TEXAS Posts: 156 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: New Guy Dave, i was looking at a similar combination but useing a 98 f/bird but found no accepted connecting rods (yet) along with virtually no one with experience with these heads. I may still try this combo but as of this time it's on the back burner. Pm me if you make any headway in these area's...........norm

11-29-2010, 01:30 AM	#5
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New Guy Just submit to NHRA a suitable replacement rod and anybody can do a cylinder head; it's just an air passageway. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

11-29-2010, 02:02 AM	#6
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,113 Likes: 1,571 Liked 1,821 Times in 413 Posts	Re: New Guy The 98 Firebird is better, and you can put an LT-1 in it if you want to go faster later. There are a couple of Firebirds running the 3.8, and the guy I talked to was bragging about the heads. Jeff is correct, find someone who makes them, and have them submit one to get it approved. Same with the pistons. You need to find a 200 Metric transmission that bolts to that block, anything else is too much and too heavy. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

11-29-2010, 11:32 AM	#7
Chris Barnes Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 139 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Guy I'm sorry to hear that you couldn't stay away--that means what I've always suspected is true--class racing is like Malaria or Herpes, never goes away. At least you're working on a combination that won't get stomped by the DPs and CJs. Welcome back and good luck! Chris Barnes Wagons of Steel C/SA 6621

11-29-2010, 01:33 PM	#8
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: New Guy '93/'97 were LT1s also. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-29-2010, 05:23 PM	#9
Dave Borror Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hide Away Hills Ohio Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Guy Thanks guys,I like the odd ball stuff. The 3.8 being such a stout V6 from the factory. GM did their work on the motors. FI is going to be the new learning cuve for me.Carb guy all my life.Yea ,JE is only the replacement piston 700.0) a set. I have though about the T200,but the 460lE has such a low 1st gear 3:08 I believe.I am hopeing to keep the rotating mass down and I want to stay with the 10 bolt and a 4:56 is the biggest I can get into that housing.(Before I go to a 12 Bolt) I have access to all the equipment to to do my motor ,and have a guy who can trick the 460LE.And I have access to a shop that can fab me just about anything.Thanks again, and I'l keep progress posted.

11-29-2010, 06:06 PM	#10
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: New Guy Like Alan said, you want a 200, not a 4L60E. Not a matter of it living. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA