Challenger Drag Pak Owners

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Let take Irv Johns as an example, and what is KNOWN to the General Public about his car and how it has run in a very short time.

I use Irv because he is fast. And he has a superior car setup and he know his stuffz period

He ran 9.74 fat.....I think by about the 14th or so pass on the motors....he can correct me if Im wrong, we talked about #s of runs under certain motors....so I could be wrong)

Cracking into the 9's .... easier than you might think with one of these.

So......a car the 14th pass out there, a well done car granted rann 9.74 fat AT a sanctioned event. You dont think hell be seein 9.4 by the mid year ? If he isnt I will be wholly dissapointed....BUT hell need a reason....If , and I say IF someone pushes him there I have no doubt he will....I dont think hes willing to be slower than anyone. I like that, actually I love that, put 3 or 4 Atype personalities in the mix of these cars.....9.4 will EASILY happen before you can blink.......easily , I have a real good idea 9.4+ is already possible from a couple of cars.....and this from other people who are familar with the cars, NOT My "uneducated lack of experince dosent know squat about anything" opinion.....but from others.....I got a call asking what we were planning to do for certain races from an "agent" of another team.....why ? He can go faster, and will if we run hot.....why ? Because he can and wont be 1 upped , something I understand completley and respect....its racing its fun, its about who can DO what, not just talk on forums about it......talking is fine, but in the time I have been talking here Ive also been working and in that time have taken a raw chassis to running car.....so...next steps running the hell out of it.

I wish heda just asked me himself, I would have told him straight up what our plan was, but he dosent know me that well to know that what I would have told him is/is not accurate, weve only chatted briefly a few times.....I think the reason for going through the other person was he trusts them, and know we trust them, he knew I would give the other person the straight up, and he could get that from them......so be it......were "ducking" at Pomona....if we make it without blowing the engine to little shards in our testing en-route.

You like Irv are 100% correct the issue will be in how or when, / IF it can be done, it will need to be done in such a way it has been done, tested and wrung out "off sanction" so it could be "Sprung" back into the fray...done outside the auspices of normal increases....a REAL "Pak Attack" as it were.....(I do like that name for Warfords car....good choice)....

Well be running the 5.7 combo for a good while, I think there is more potential in it because of factors, what happens between now an then with the 6.1 factors....who knows....noone does....

The car I believe is Physically capable within the rules of running to 8.99 with a bit of time and figuring out like I said up to a year. Thats with engine , trans and rear, car all NHRA spec......Now.....with factors it is a different game....and since noone know where these will be by the time the car is physically capable , thats the big question.

2 different issues.....1 strictly mechanical based on rules. 2 strictly legislative on factors. #1 I think can be done, #2 .... HellI have more Idea pissing into the wind off the empire state building the balance of males / females that the spray will hit at the bottom than how/where/when factors on these 6.1 combos will be adjusted, EXCEPT what I plan to do to the 6.1 factors if Im able. Thats why I do plan, it takes something outside of my control and puts it directly into my influence, taking that control from others is key for a good season plan to succeed and I will "force" a hand at every single turn given the option. I do in poker and this is no different.

This is going to be my last post on this here....I allowed myself to be "off coursed" and am going to send the admins a message about moving this into a seperate thread.

I started this thread FOR 1 REASON , to List DP Owner who WISH to be listed....nothing else....I, ME, allowed myself to be off tracked for several reasons, lack of sleep I am going to blame as 1, but just because I made the mistake dosent mean I cant be the one to correct it.....

Soooooooooooooooo No more posts from me in THIS thread about this..

This thread is to list DP owners, simple , ENTIRLEY my fault for off tracking and allowing myself to be off tracked here in this thread.

Cheers........

Damm I want the patch NOW (I just ordered 6 of em...lol)

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer

Come on now. No DP is going in the 8's in Stock. If you crack into the 9's you did good. The categorized to make a mockery of Stock mustangs are capable but even there odds are slim as they will need to haul from the get go with a -1.60 before getting horsepower.

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by drooze

So......a car the 14th pass out there, a well done car granted rann 9.74 fat AT a sanctioned event. You dont think hell be seein 9.4 by the mid year ?

No. Who runs there best times in the middle of the season???

Two letters, DA

[Jeff Teuton]

I told yall. Bo Knows. I want one of them patches. Love the Hat. What I gotta do to get one. Who Dat Nation

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

http://www.lapolicegear.com/sesqpa.html

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

I told yall. Bo Knows. I want one of them patches. Love the Hat. What I gotta do to get one. Who Dat Nation

[Rich Biebel]

7 days and 21 hours till Pomona......as per the NHRA website right now....

You get maybe 3 runs and then line up. You could quite easily not run anyone heads-up for numerous races......or you could have a headsup right out of the box.......Since the odds are that you will not have any headsup runs get some fresh shoe polish for your driver.....

If you are lucky enough to run somone flat out you can show off your handywork and let your ET slip do the talking for a change....

One can only hope Mustangs and Challengers have to race each other constantly for a number of races. No stocker should be capable of running the numbers your talking about unless NEW weight breaks were established due to the rediculous HP these cars must be capable of making.......Mustangs running low 9's and Challengers running 9.7's tells anyone paying attention that something is way wrong with the HP ratings as they stand.......

It took years and years for a BB Camaro to be capable of running into the 9's in Stock. No way a new car is factored right if it does it right out of the box......the LT-1 Pontiacs come to mind for a comparison.......

Best thing that could happen is new classes that would accomodate these new cars and add a Camaro to the mix.......AAA/SA looks to confusing. Make it A at the top and fix it at the bottom.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Agreed 100%......nothing like increasing the long term value of the cars like the SS/AH car than putting them in their own playground where only they can play.

A real kick in the head would be if the Mustangs made it and the Challengers didnt......that, that would suck.

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Best thing that could happen is new classes that would accomodate these new cars and add a Camaro to the mix.......AAA/SA looks to confusing. Make it A at the top and fix it at the bottom.

[Bob Pagano]

Hay Rich still in Paterson ? His driver knows all about shoe polish ! I sure hope to hell some of them run the CJs , they need to be pushed.

[Rich Biebel]

Bob I was never from the Paterson area.......Parsippany/Lake Hiawatha area, for a while. The home of our old friend Mr Stein.......I moved further west almost 40 years ago......still live in the same house. I saw Jerry not that long ago in a hardware store in Dover.......

[bubski]

drooze go wreck the hp rating 1st time out. you got em scared

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by drooze

Agreed 100%......nothing like increasing the long term value of the cars like the SS/AH car than putting them in their own playground where only they can play.

A real kick in the head would be if the Mustangs made it and the Challengers didnt......that, that would suck.

Should not be any problem......Stock HP ratings are totally ARBITRARY so NHRA makes them whatever they need to be so the Mustangs and Challengers run together. Add a Camaro when GM decides to build one that could compete and you'd have something everyone could enjoy......

Watching a New Blown Mustang or DP Challenger run and hide from a 40+ year old Muscle car is not my idea of fair competetion. All it shows is that the HP ratings are bogus.....