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Old 03-25-2021, 08:21 AM   #1
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Default F.I. fuel pressure theories

36lb injectors at 50 psi or 42lb injectors at 40 psi . If I am able to achieve an optimal A/F either way...which will produce more power and greater consistency? Either? My theory is the higher pressure going through the smaller orifice will produce a finer mist..or better atomization which is always better? Or not?
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Has anyone looked at say running the 42 lb injector at say 55 PSI which would have a reduced pulse width / duty cycle verses the 36 lb injector at 50 PSI?

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Old 03-25-2021, 10:53 AM   #3
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I run my 24 lbs injectors at 70 psi. Theory is the injector acts larger and high pressure atomizes fuel better. I believe Ed Wright posted on this topic in the past.

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Has anyone looked at say running the 42 lb injector at say 55 PSI which would have a reduced pulse width / duty cycle verses the 36 lb injector at 50 PSI?

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So turn the pressure back up to 50 and shorten the duration cycle?
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So turn the pressure back up to 50 and shorten the duration cycle?

Yes, as you increase the fuel pressure the injector flow rate increases. But if fuel needed has not changed then you need to short / decrease the amount of time that fuel is flowing.

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Has anyone looked at say running the 42 lb injector at say 55 PSI which would have a reduced pulse width / duty cycle verses the 36 lb injector at 50 PSI?

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Yes, that is definitely the right direction based on our experience. Larger injectors, higher FP (50 psi minimum), and reduced pulse width.


YMMV.
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Yes, that is definitely the right direction based on our experience. Larger injectors, higher FP (50 psi minimum), and reduced pulse width.


YMMV.

Does your ECU let you control an individual injector's flow position in the 720 degree cycle?

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Old 03-25-2021, 04:45 PM   #8
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Default Re: F.I. fuel pressure theories

I've been wondering this also. An oversized injector to get down to a low pulse width duty cycle? This is beneficial if you can phase the injector to spray at optimal time. Or a smaller injector with higher pressure for higher mist and atomization but it stays open longer and could be spraying at a closed valve.
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Default Re: F.I. fuel pressure theories

Looking at a data log, my injectors (24 lbs/hr) are open 7.7msec (88% duty cycle) at 7000RPM (42 deg/msec). The intake has 308 deg dur @ .020”. So injectors are open 323 degrees of rotation and in my case spraying at a closed intake valve.

Not sure if any would be gained by a 36 lbs/hr etc.
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Does your ECU let you control an individual injector's flow position in the 720 degree cycle?

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I think so its a big stuff 3 i had it programmed for my car (99 Camaro) and had it installed First time at the track black smoke was rolling out at idle and was trying to load up. I haven't learned how to tune it yet so i turned fuel pressure down to about 42psi to clean it up. So my thought was to change to 36lb injectors so I could turn it back up....but if I can cure the problem by shortening the pulse width.....whats the difference?
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