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Old 03-24-2020, 01:18 PM   #1
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With the covid-9 crisis shutting down all real world activities, I'm putting this out there to test the waters. With my software development and lifetime of drag racing experience, I have been working on and off (more off lately unfortunately) on creating a highly detailed drag racing simulator that incorporates very realistic driver experience, highly complex technical mechanical modeling as well as very detailed graphics and audio. I'm not talking about a "game" but a very rich in detail program that could closely resemble reality (i.e. flowbench data, genuine mfr part numbers, cnc specs and design criteria, open chassis modeling, OEM body and frame specs) the iRacing community has already proven the ability to model such detail. Unfortunately most current developer teams who've attempted similar programs with drag racing have fallen far short of the mark. Some feature somewhat complex mechanical features but lack realism in terms of dynamic performance (graphics and sound). Others incorporate far better graphics and sound packages but are geared towards arcade users and lack any sort of quality mechanical detail. From my experience in the flight simulator circles, an endeavor this ambitious would require group effort and a lot of input. The variables and data management alone would be a massive undertaking. The question is how popular would it be with real racers? Thoughts?
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:58 PM   #2
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It would have to include such realistic features as slamming on the brakes at 1000' during qualifying, sandbagging during eliminations without locking 'em up at the stripe and tossing ballast on the return road to avoid an accidental 1.2 under qualifying run. Now you're talkin' real racin'
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:14 AM   #3
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It would have to include such realistic features as slamming on the brakes at 1000' during qualifying, sandbagging during eliminations without locking 'em up at the stripe and tossing ballast on the return road to avoid an accidental 1.2 under qualifying run. Now you're talkin' real racin'
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:19 AM   #4
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they had a good drag game at one time but then every body started to have .000 lights and on the dial with a .000. the cheating was non-controllable
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:20 PM   #5
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Here's a screen capture of myself playing IHRA Drag Racing 2 for ps2 on my brand new computer using downloaded software. IMHO this is the best "sportsman" type of drag racing game ever released due to the vast amount of tuning you can do to the cars.
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I saw excess braking on that run, lol....
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We could try it but unless Bill Rink wins SS/MA the whole deal would be invalidated.

But seriously, without the smell of race gas and burning rubber along with the sound of a Max Wedge (pick your brand but you probably get the idea) I wouldn’t see the point. Know the iNASCAR thing was fairly well received but those are just millionaires playing with their toys. Not trying to throw a wet blanket on your idea because I applaud your thinking outside the box, just MHO
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There wouldn't be massive appeal, but among racers I have to think it would be quite popular.

The ability to 'dumb it down' a little bit to allow any modifications, bracket racing, maybe even throttle stops would help increase the audience.

I was a tester back in the late '90s when Bethesda Softworks was making Burnout, Burnout PCE, etc. I wasn't officially involved with the project but I kept sending them email with all of the stuff that was wrong so they started sending me advance copies and updates to ensure that things were correct.

I go to a party every spring at a computer-savvy racer's shop, where they set up 8 old Windows 98 PCs on a network complete with steering wheel/pedal setups, and we run a bunch of races on those old games all night for money and a homemade 'Wally' type trophy for the grand champion.

A modern equivalent game/simulator that runs on modern hardware would be phenomenal!
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There wouldn't be massive appeal, but among racers I have to think it would be quite popular.

The ability to 'dumb it down' a little bit to allow any modifications, bracket racing, maybe even throttle stops would help increase the audience.

I was a tester back in the late '90s when Bethesda Softworks was making Burnout, Burnout PCE, etc. I wasn't officially involved with the project but I kept sending them email with all of the stuff that was wrong so they started sending me advance copies and updates to ensure that things were correct.

I go to a party every spring at a computer-savvy racer's shop, where they set up 8 old Windows 98 PCs on a network complete with steering wheel/pedal setups, and we run a bunch of races on those old games all night for money and a homemade 'Wally' type trophy for the grand champion.

A modern equivalent game/simulator that runs on modern hardware would be phenomenal!
that has been the case with any drag racing games etc. my whole life is the dumbing down or lack of makers knowing reality of drag racing.
so I say smart it up
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that has been the case with any drag racing games etc. my whole life is the dumbing down or lack of makers knowing reality of drag racing.
so I say smart it up
I don't disagree with you, but there are a lot more of 'them' than there are of 'us'. Keep the advanced stuff in for those that want it.
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